1861 Census Look-Up Surrey UK

[axelaust]

I am hoping someone is kind enough to help me find a child on the 1861 census

Her name is: Rebecca Mary ELLIS born January 1858 in Peckham Camberwell Surrey.

She is not with the her parents and perhaps her whereabouts will help lead to other older siblings or grandparents.

Thank you

axelaust

[Kae]

Hi Axelaust,
I have some info not from any census but from my granddad..(Eric)

Albert Harden Kearnes, b. 30/11/1902, Surrey. d.1968.
Married: Winifred Daisy Ellis,
b.1904, London-east end?  d.1988, St John’s Hospital, Chelmsford Essex.
1 Child:

Eric Albert Kearnes, b.19/05/1926, Leytonstone, Essex.

Winifred Daisy Ellis had  2 (known) siblings-poss more.
 
Jack Ellis, married Megan Lived in portland.
Doris 'Doll' Ellis, married a charlies latter. essex area.

there mother died (name unknown) 1918,
their father remarried  to Mary -unknown- they both lived in Doddinghurst and ran post office.

the family lived in and around london, surrey seems to be a link.

any familiar names, dates?

Kae

[Bryant]

Hello Axelaust

This 1871 will assist the lookuppers for the 1861/51

1871
ARTICHOKE PLACE, ST GILES, CAMBERWELL, SURREY
JAMES ELLIS  HEAD   65  BOOTMAKER                   HOXTON, MIDDX
SARAH   "       WIFE   58  NURSE                           CLERKENWELL, MIDDX
CHARLES "     SON     27 HARNESS MAKER             ST LUKES, MIDDX
WALTER   "       "        21       "          "                           "             "
REBECCA "     DAUR   13  SCHOLAR                        CAMBERWELL, SURREY
ALICE A    "      "         11      "                                         "                "     
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Bryant

[Valda]

Hi Axelaust

just doing some housekeeping and checking old posts. Have you found the information you requested by now?

Regards

Valda
Surrey Moderator

[axelaust]

Hi Valda

Thank you for asking.

I have Rebecca on every census bar the 1861.

I have searched and searched and she is just missing in action or she was overlooked when the census was done.

axelaust

[Valda]

Hi axelaust

It may just be that she was missed off the return for that household. The procedure was the census enumerator came round to each household and left the schedule explaining it to whoever was present. The household then attempted, or not to fill it in. Reading skills amongst the population would be higher than writing skills which even if they had been learnt would have had fewer occasions to be practiced. The census enumerator returned and attempted to read what had been written and scribed further if necessary from what he was verbally told (in whatever accent or dialect it was said to him in) from whoever was around at the time of his visit. The census enumerator went home tired. The census enumerator then painstakingly copied what he could read and understand from the household schedules into the census enumerator's book. He then sent the schedules and the book on to the statisticians. The household schedules after the copy was made were destroyed. There was no checking process.

It is therefore understandable that errors crept into the censuses during the process but they also crept in from peoples' understanding of who should be included. It might be on the census night Rebecca was staying with close relatives who did not include her in their household schedule because they thought she would be included in her parents' household schedule since they perceived it as a schedule for who normally lived and slept there, not who was there only on that particular night - that's why you often find people enumerated twice on census schedules.

The census gives no indication anyway of where Rebecca was living just where she was on one night in 1861. Have you any reason she was not living with her parents?


Regards


Valda