Grandfather - Yet another dead end.

[Alreetkidda]

I have being do well on all directions of my tree apart from my grandfather on my maternal side. No body remembers much about him and I have no information what so ever on his parents etc. So having just got back into employment, I decided to order his marriage certificate for him and my grandmother. Whilst on the phone to the registry office at Bishop Auckland, I asked if they had a birth certificate for him but they could not find anything. So the marriage certificate arrives and guess what - no father mentioned.  So £12 down and non the wiser.

If anybody can help out in any way, I would be truly grateful. Here are some details:
William Taylor Marley. I believe that he was born in 1881, but maybe 1882. He died in 1955. Married on the 6th July 1921 to Mary Annie Ebdy. He was a widower. No idea on his first marriage. He was a coal miner and they were both residing at New Elvet in Durham at the time of the marriage. The house may have belonged to Mary from her first marriage as her husband was killed in the first world war. I found a medal index card for a William T Marley in the D.L.I. # 104427 but, I don't know if this is him or not.

Thanks in advance.
Allen.

[brushbroomstick]

In Family Search there is a William Marley baptised 24 Dec 1882 St Joseph Patrick & Cuthbert at Cornforth Durham with parents Jacob Marley and Joanna Anderson .

[rosiemagic]

Hi there,

I've searched for births of a "William Taylor Marley" with variants of spellings between 1880 and 1884 and its come up with the following:-

MARLEY William John T      Sunderland   Durham                1881 Jul-Aug-Sep   
MORLEY William Taylor      Tynemouth   Northumberland    1883 Jan-Feb-Mar

Does this help at all?

RM :-)

[AMBLY]

Possible (short    ) first marriage:

MARRIAGE 1: Sep Qtr 1911, Darlington 10a, pg 9
William T MARLEY
Frances M A HOBSON

DEATH: Dec Qtr 1911, Northallerton, 9d, pg 809
Frances M A MARLEY age 24

Cheers
AMBLY

[AMBLY]

 
Births......MORLEY William Taylor      Tynemouth   Northumberland    1883 Jan-Feb-Mar

There is the death of the same, in the same Qtr/Year & district .

Who were the witness' on the 1921 marriage cert, Allen?

Cheers
AMBLY

[Ladyhawk]

Here are some details:
William Taylor Marley He died in 1955. Married on the 6th July 1921
to Mary Annie Ebdy. He was a widower. He was a coal miner and they were both residing at New Elvet in Durham at the time of the marriage.

The house may have belonged to Mary from her first marriage as her husband was killed in the first world war.

What age was given for William & Mary on their marriage certificate

I know you are looking for William but trying to use all info. you have given to try and establish his whereabouts

Looks as if William Taylor MARLEY’s wife Mary Annie was married to
Frederick EBDY, looking at the Free 1911 search using EBDY Durham New Elvet you have this family
Frederick bn 1886, Mary Annie 1888 dau Alice EBDY 1909

marriage entry Mar qtr. 1909 Durham
Frederick EBDY name on same page
Mary Annie BACKLER

CWGC site gives death of
Frederick EBDY (Private)
15.9.1916 Yorkshire Regiment No. 18831

additonal information given
“Husband of Mary A MARLEY (formerly EBDY) living
19 Margaret St., New Branscepeth Co. Durham

Not sure what to make of the entry she didn't marry William Taylor MARLEY until 1921 and her maiden name was BACKLER I suppose it could depend when the death entry was recorded

Not as easy to pinpoint your William Taylor MARLEY on Free1911 search, if he was in the Army he could have been serving overseas

Possible (short    ) first marriage:
Sep Qtr 1911, Darlington 10a, pg 9
William T MARLEY
Frances M A HOBSON

DEATH: Dec Qtr 1911, Northallerton, 9d, pg 809
Frances M A MARLEY age 24

Frances Mary Ann HOBSON b1887 Crakehall Yorkshire
dau of Thomas & Margaret living Yorkshire 1901 & 1911 Darlington

If this marriage/death entry is correct William could possibly be living in Darlington 1911

[Sharon01]

Hi,

There is a William Marley in 1901 living at 152 Leadgate. Leadgate St Ives,  Sunderland Durham.

Frank Marley Head 34 coal miner born Sunderland.
Matilda Marley Wife 32 (cannot make out pob)
Caroline Marley dau 6 born Sunderland
William Marley Nephew 20 coal miner born Sunderland

RG13/4669/17/26

Sharon

[Alreetkidda]

First of all - Thank you all very much for the help.  

Right. I will try and go over or answer any questions etc in the order they were posted.

@ Brushbroomstick
Thank you. I can not rule him out, but I am 90% positive that he was born in 1881. The area is not a million miles away though.

@ Rosemagic
The William John T from Sunderland does seem like a very close possibility to me. I came across a William Marley born in Sunderland living at Iveston on the 1901 census with his uncle Frank Marley. He was 20 years old and would tie in with the 1881.

@ Ambly
Jeez that was a short marriage. How would I make a connection though?
The witnesses on the cert are S. Dodds and M. J or I Hopper.

@ Ladyhawk
The ages were 39 for William and 32 for Mary.
Frederick Ebdy details are correct including the military details. It is strange if that is the right word for it, that if he was not killed during the war, then she would not have remarried to William and my mother and then of course me would not be here now.
New Branscepeth is where they lived when my mother was born. So yes that is very strange.

@ Sharon01
Your reply came just before I finished typing this.
That is the family I mentioned earlier in this message. Matilda was born in Guernsey, Channel Islands. She moved to Sunderland with her parents. I had just found that information after posting this when I made a trip to the library to use the free ancestry service. Unfortunately I forgot my memory stick and did not manage to keep many details.

Thanks,
Allen.

[Ladyhawk]

DEATH: Dec Qtr 1911, Northallerton, 9d, pg 809
Frances M A MARLEY age 24

Frances must have died shortly after childbrith 

Frances MARLEY mmn HOBSON
Sep qtr. 1911 Northallerton

Here's the link for CWCG to search surname EBDY F
http://www.cwgc.org/debt_of_honour.asp?menuid=14