Charles Collins of Chesham

[inept]

Would anyone know, please, of the parents of Charles Collins b 1841 at Chesham

We think Charles and his siblings emigrated to Australia in 1854.

Details of Charles' descendants are at


http://www.family-trees.com.au/        (then search for Charles Collins)


Any additional info and corrections will be welcomed.

Thanks in anticipation

inept

[keyboard86]

Hi, well there is this family in Chesham in 1841:-

Thomas Collins 24 occ Straw Platter ?
Sarah 26
Thomas 8
Elizabeth 5
John 3
Ann 1
CHARLES 4 months
Residing at Red Lion Street, Chesham, Bucks.
Census Ref HO107/47/ 2/12/ 18
Keyboard86

[keyboard86]

Hi again, and in 1851:-

Sarah 35 Married occ Sewer b Princes Risborough Bucks
Elizabeth16 occ Sewer b Chesham
Ann 11 b Chesham
Charles 10 b Chesham
John 8 b Bye
Mary 7 b Chesham
Sarah 5 b Gt Missenden
Thomas 4 b Gt Missenden
Walter 1 b Bucks.
Residing at High Town, Luton, Bedfordshire.
Census Ref HO107/1757/605/32

In 1851 Thomas Collins aged 35 Married occ Butcher b Chesham is visiting John and Sarah Howard and family in Chesham, Census Ref HO107/1717/121/22
Keyboard86

[inept]

Thank you keyboard86, or should I call you lightning!

That looks certain to be the correct family.

Thank you very much.

Now we are on a roll, do you have the means of checking the marriage of Thomas and Sarah?  She was possibly Sarah Lacey.

And it seems Sarah journeyed to Australia without her husband Thomas.  Would you have any way of finding out if she was widowed prior to 1854?

inept

[keyboard86]

Hi the Sarah Lacey married a Thomas Collins 1st February 1833 in St Sepulchre, in London?, have you not obtained any of the childrens birth certificates to confirm Sarah's maiden name?

The possibles in Bucks are a Sarah Harris or a Sarah Groves, but only a birth cert of one of the later siblings will confirm yey or ney!

As Thomas was alive in 1851 the deaths in Buckinghamshire ( If that is where he died ) are both in March 1852 Berkhampstead and Wycombe, or possibly Dec qtr 1854 Wycombe.

Keyboard86

[inept]

Thanks again, lightning keyboard!

This has been moving very fast!  Now we have the right family, yes, we can order a birth certificate.

I see on the 1851 Census Sarah describes herself as head of the household, head of 8 children after the first Thomas Jr died.  Another child,  Rosa Lacey Collins, was born before she emigrated.  Perhaps Sarah was pregnant with Rosa and widowed (or abandoned?) when the Census taker called?

Any sign of the death of Thomas Sr around 1851?  I cannot find it.

Thanks again

inept

[inept]

PS

The 1841 Census has Thomas b abt 1817

[keyboard86]

PS

The 1841 Census has Thomas b abt 1817

Look at my modified post re 1851 for Sarah, also she is NOT Head of the family, she just states she is married!

? Why name the LAST born child with the middle name Lacey why not the first born male/female?
Also when/where was Rosa Lacey Collins born?
Keyboard86

[inept]

Thanks for that, keyboard.

It must be my eyesight.  I read the word in the fourth column above "Dau" as "Head", not "Married".

Sorry!

inept as ever