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Re: Stuck with the Smiths again!
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 16 June 11 21:59 BST (UK) »
something you have to ask yourself is why they used St KJames at Poole when there was St peter at Parkstone
(maybe it something simple to do with dates of the buildingof the churches or maybe not?)
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Re: Stuck with the Smiths again!
« Reply #10 on: Thursday 16 June 11 22:04 BST (UK) »
as far as i could see the marriages for Poole and Parkstone are not on IGI
although christenings are
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Re: Stuck with the Smiths again!
« Reply #11 on: Thursday 16 June 11 22:19 BST (UK) »
Toni I can't thank you enough for your speedy work! It's given me lots to think about and I hadn't spotted the church bit before. I am going to write a bit of a list from all the things you've found and start again. May even go back to the microfishe (with some sea sickness tablets this time  ;) ) and see if I can find anything with the possible different dates.

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Smith; Dutton; Sawyer; Judd; Taylor; Haddock; Viney; Kemp; Edwards

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Re: Stuck with the Smiths again!
« Reply #12 on: Thursday 16 June 11 22:22 BST (UK) »
Just looked up Victorian occupations on a website that lists them as part of an 1891 census transcription thingy and they list 'Coalmeter A person who measured the coal' ! So you did read it right! I am now going to see if there's any info about exactly what this entailed!
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Re: Stuck with the Smiths again!
« Reply #13 on: Thursday 16 June 11 22:38 BST (UK) »
St Peter's church in Parkstone was built in 1833. Before that, most of Parkstone was part of Kinson Parish (now in Bournemouth) and baptisms, weddings, etc tended to be split between St Andrew's Kinson, St James, Poole and Canford Magna Church.
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Re: Stuck with the Smiths again!
« Reply #14 on: Friday 17 June 11 00:43 BST (UK) »
Well....I have done my usual random putting in of a mixture of names into the internet and ended up on a Canadian website listing people who emigrated to New Foundland. I thought this couldn't possibly be anything to do with my lot as they barely seem to have moved a few inches from their home turf but the names involved have got me wondering as there is a VINEY and a SMITH.

Also, having done a cursory look at any connections between New Foundland and Poole I was amazed to discover that connections were remarkably strong and even some of the pillars in one of the Parkstone churches came from NFLD. So it gives more validity to things...though I can't see John marrying a Diana and this John appears to remain in NFLD...I just can't help thinking there might be a link.

Any thoughts about the following:

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George SMITH Rev born in 1766 in Poole, Dorset. He dies about 1832 in Poole Dorset
married 1786 to: Deborah?/Marie? Viney about (1768 - 1795). Children were John SMITH, Nathaniel SMITH, Robert SMITH and Thomas W. SMITH Rev

John SMITH born 1787 in Poole Dorset. Marries Mary (no surname b.1795) in Greenspond Newfoundland Canada about 1810...there's a long list of kids.

Now parts of this seem right but their John seems quite different to the one I'm after: different named wife and no daughter called Maragaret....but George Smith did return to the UK at some point as he died here, his wife would have died when the kids were pretty young so I don't know what that would make him do....or perhaps he came back, got remarried and left the original lot out in NFLD....I dunno!

I'm too sleepy now to figure this out but I feel more digging could be good.

Thanks everyone for all your help!
Frodo
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Re: Stuck with the Smiths again!
« Reply #15 on: Friday 17 June 11 10:17 BST (UK) »
St Peter's church in Parkstone was built in 1833. Before that, most of Parkstone was part of Kinson Parish (now in Bournemouth) and baptisms, weddings, etc tended to be split between St Andrew's Kinson, St James, Poole and Canford Magna Church.
that would explain why they used ST James but lived in parkstone
Frodo i would suggest you look at these PR's for a marriage

(when my sister in law was pregnant in 2004 my son wanted her to call the baby Frodo - she didn't!)
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Re: Stuck with the Smiths again!
« Reply #16 on: Friday 17 June 11 10:33 BST (UK) »
Haha! Frodo is a good name! Though I have to confess...it's not my real name of course  ;)  .....my family do have Hobbit like characteristics though hence always choosing it for things like this!!!

However, establishing whether the Hobbit-like characteristics go back any further than my grandfather is proving interesting! I am pondering a return visit to the local history centre again....or giving the main archives place a call to see if they think they could help.

Frustrating! Perhaps I should put it aside and get on with the decorating I'm avoiding.....

Parish records here we come! (I've checked all online ones but haven't found anything btw and checked a good range on ones on microfische yesterday but still nothing hence the frustration!)
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Re: Stuck with the Smiths again!
« Reply #17 on: Friday 17 June 11 10:37 BST (UK) »
Perhaps they did go to Newfoundland but don’t rush into things take it one step at a time I would concentrate on finding the marriage first as this is something we know happened whereas them being in Newfoundland is just a maybe.

Something else I thought of was Diana burial gives her a suggested birth date of 1767 to be having a first child in 1810 at the age of 43 didn’t often happen in those days which makes me wonder if there are more children whose records are not available online or if they were both previously married.
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