Richard Millington Perks

[jim1]

I noticed it said Kezia as well.As Keren isn't really a name it was probably mistranscribed, as Kezia looks similar,although on here it's obviously Keren.I noticed also on the Ancestry trees she's Karen.You're the only one that has it right.
"Toy" making was a common trade in B'ham,James Watt being the most well known.

jim

[Phodgetts]

Another question for you. Is the marriage of Thomas Perks and Jemima Hiron also in amongst that list? They were married 31 August 1812 but on the IGI there is no mention of the bride or groom's parents.

Philip

[jim1]

Father's names weren't included pre 1837 on marriages.

[Phodgetts]

Thanks ever so much Jim.......  Don't know how I'd get by without the help of all the good folk on RootsChat.

Philip 

PS I notice your Gay family in Lancashire. Whereabouts did they live?

[jim1]

William Seddon Gay married into the family,he was from Richmond Surrey,they moved to Manchester early 1900's.

jim

[Phodgetts]

And then... dozey me,  never asked about what image was available for my 3 x Gt Grandmother Rachel Perks (Neal) and Charles Hunt, after all she is the one that is most important to me. Is there any info and image for them?


I also wonder about the 8 children all being christened on the same day in October 1830. Was that kind of large family event 'normal'? I'd have thought that Thomas and Jemima would have all their kinds christened early in life and quite soon after each was born, especially since they had the experience of losing Richard as a baby. Son Thomas was 14 and Naomi just 1 year old when they were christened. I had wondered if there was a change in religion or denomination but the parents were married at St Martin's the same place as the christenings, so it seems as though they just left for a while.

I am going to have visit St Martin's and get me some photos of the place.

Philip

[jim1]

Multiple christenings were quite common but so many in one go isn't.
With child mortality rates so high it was a big risk leaving it as late as this.
There may have been pressure brought to bear by the Rector.
Rachel's 2nd. marriage took place in St.Peter's & St.Paul's in Aston.
There are plenty of photos online of St.Martin's,it's the oldest church in B'ham.

[jim1]

When I looked at this address,Cock St. it didn't seem right & on looking at my 1860's street index I found it doesn't exist.
I think it shoud be Cox St.
The other info. of census & addresses of the 2 girls marriages puts all 4 known addresses in the same area of NW B'ham.
Cox St. address on the christening PR (1830)
Pope St. is where Richard was living with G/son also Thomas was living there.(1841)
Livery St. address on Keren's marriage cert. (1845)
Tower St. on Rachel's marriage cert. (1850)

[Phodgetts]

Thanks Jim, it is wonderful to see the locations they lived in, in relation to each other. All within walking distance. One can imagine the grand kids popping off round the street corner to go visit aunts and uncles and grandparents, just to go see them when in fact the mission was for to go get a penny (I know because I did myself haha!) perhaps attending the same church and worshipping together. Being close enough to meet up for annual parties and celebrations if they were that ilk of family. Not like today when families are spread over vast distances and are lucky to see oneanother even once a year. I know from my own extended family across the world how difficult and expensive it is to see them regularly, i.e. the USA and Oz besides being spread across Britain.


Philip