Hinder , Prinsep , Morris , Aylwin , Cooper , Sheperd , Fogg

[casalguidi]

Pearl PRINCEPS 15 and Garnet PRINCEPS 11 emigrated aboard the "Vancouver" departing Liverpool and arriving Quebec 1 Sep 1899.

The passenger list says that they travelled with Mrs JOYCE's party!  Mrs JOYCE was head of the British Women's Emigration Association ............... she was responsible for transporting many, mostly young women, to Canada.  They are listed as English and destined for Hamilton.  That's a mystery isn't it

http://archiveshub.ac.uk/features/0806bwea.html

Master "PRINCESS" 12
Ruby "PRINCESS" 7
Despite the age discrepancies I'm quite hopeful that this is them.  They, too, were travelling with Mrs JOYCE's party and there is a note to say that they were going to join their mother in Hamilton!
They arrived 24 Jun 1899 aboard the "Vancouver" (to Quebec from Liverpool).

A M PRINCEP age 32 wife departed Liverpool on the "Vancouver" destined for Hamilton.  She was travelling with Mrs JOYCE's party and arrived Quebec 1 Aug 1896.

So, the 1901 census of the PRINCEP/AYLWIN family in Hamilton was correct .............. that Adeline emigrated first (with the British Women's Emigration Association) and then enlisted the help of them to bring her children over.  A big mystery there!

I have never been able to find where in Dartford they were living

Well, probably the best option would be to buy Arthur Beryl's birth certificate - at least it should have an address and some information about his parents.  Strange that he should also list the Isle of Wight first on his WW1 CEF enlistment ............... I wonder what the connection with the Isle of Wight would be as it's not the kind of thing one would dream up

Casalguidi

[scintilla]

There is this PRINSEP family living on the Isle of Wight in 1891

PRINSEP, James H    Head  Married    M    63   Retired Indian Civil Service   b. East Indies   
PRINSEP, Christina L  Wife    Married    F    32    b. Scotland
PRINSEP, Katie B    Daughter    Single    F    24    b. East Indies    
PRINSEP, Phyllis M    Daughter       F    13     Scholar   b. East Indies   

Harrow Lodge, Osborne Road, Shanklin

and also

PRINSEP, Annie M    Head    Single    F    39    Living On Own Means   b. Calcutta India

Sunnyside, Freshwater, Colwell

Perhaps they stayed on the IOW before travelling to Kent?

[casalguidi]

Oh my, I just found a divorce - wasn't expecting that

Case number 1094   year 1893   PRINSEP   Adeline Mary v   PRINSEP   Arthur Thoby
Search the New South Wales (Australia) State Archives for PRINSEP http://srwww.records.nsw.gov.au/indexsearch/keyname.aspx

So, at the moment, we have them in India until Ruby's birth in 1885 Australia then back in India until Arthur Beryl's birth in Kent, England 1891, this divorce recorded in Australia 1893, Adeline's emigration to Canada in 1896 with the children following in 1899 and we know Arthur Thoby was still alive in 1893 then.

Chum, why not try posting on the Emigrants to Australia board here on Rootschat to see if any of the Rootschatters who frequent that board can turn anything else up on their, perhaps brief, time in Australia http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/board,165.0.html

Casalguidi

[Richardson]

Thank you.

   The spelling is wrong and that is why I could not find any information.

  Garnet Thoby Prinsep
   Ruby Laurel  Prinsep
   Pearl Jean    Prinsep
   Arthur Beryl  Prinsep
   
   Adeline did leave the children in England when she came to Canada. My grandfather Charles Stanley Aylwin did not know about the children at first , possible not until after they were married. I was told the children were left in a convent until they came to Canada. Charles Stanley Aylwin had a farm at Freeman , Ontario which is now part of Burlington , Ontario which is close to Hamilton , Ontario. I have 2 Aylwin uncles buried in the Greenwood Cemetery in Burlington.

  There were a lot of Hinder family in Australia. I have had contact with some. They do not have much information on Adeline Mary Hinder ( Prinsep )( Aylwin ). They are mostly from one of the other two brothers , children of John Hinder and Ann Fogg. They had the 3 sons. Adeline did travel between India , Australia and England even before she was married. I had no idea where Arthur Thoby Haversleigh Prinsep was.

   If any one wants to look at photos they are in my albums at  care2.com.

                     Chum

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There is this PRINSEP family living on the Isle of Wight in 1891

PRINSEP, James H    Head  Married    M    63   Retired Indian Civil Service   b. East Indies   
PRINSEP, Christina L  Wife    Married    F    32    b. Scotland
PRINSEP, Katie B    Daughter    Single    F    24    b. East Indies    
PRINSEP, Phyllis M    Daughter       F    13     Scholar   b. East Indies   

Harrow Lodge, Osborne Road, Shanklin

The above Head James Hunter Prinsep 1827 - 1906 was the son of William Prinsep born 1794 and his brother was Sir Henry Thoby Princep whose son was the artist Valentine Cameron Princep.
William Prinsep father was John Prinsep born 23rd April 1746 and died 30th November 1830 aged 84 and he was an Indigo planter between 1771 and 1787 in India. He held the office of M.P. for Queensbourgh Kent 1802/06 and he was High Baliff for Southwalk 1818-1824. His father was John Princep Vicar of Bicester, dying in 1768.
James Hunter Princep daughter Katie Blanche Princep married my grandfather in 1893, but he divorced her in 1906 and she died in 1951.