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Re: barnsley marriage
« Reply #18 on: Friday 17 June 11 18:52 BST (UK) »
High Hoyland is a village and civil parish in the Metropolitan Borough of Barnsley in South Yorkshire, England, on the border with West Yorks
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_Hoyland

JOHN FIRTH
 bapt  29 JUN 1810   High Hoyland, Yorkshire, England
Father  WILLIAM FIRTH Mother  ANN
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JOHN FIRTH
 
  Spouse:  MARY WOODHEAD   
  Marriage:  03 JUN 1839   St Mary, Barnsley, Yorkshire, England
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John Firth buried aged 45 1856  High Hoyland

Look like Mary Woodhead may have been from St Marys Parish Bransley and John from High Hoyland parish they lived early day in Barnsley or High Hyland after marriage or both at different times in their married life.? Maybe
In my opinion the marriage residence is not always the place of birth. Never forget Workhouse and overseers accounts records of birth

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« Reply #19 on: Friday 17 June 11 20:37 BST (UK) »
That looks cosey, you have been busy, were did you find all this... will have to find the children if any in the 41 and 51 see if a charles turns up in this family approx 1847/8ish...thanks, that will give me something to do...mick
Pringle..N-yorks.  Swann..Nthamptonshire. Newman..Wilts.  Whites...Surrey/london.  Filce..London/surrey.  McCarthy...Co Cork Eire.
Atkinson...N-Yorks.    Irvine... Sothern England
Cook...glouc/shire.    Alderton... Thingoe/Suffolk

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« Reply #20 on: Friday 17 June 11 20:46 BST (UK) »
I have a mixed up family in sykehouse on
       
           51 c             2349/248/23

  theres a charles at the age required, there with out daddy or mumso far as one can make out, tried for 41 but no avail so far...     
Pringle..N-yorks.  Swann..Nthamptonshire. Newman..Wilts.  Whites...Surrey/london.  Filce..London/surrey.  McCarthy...Co Cork Eire.
Atkinson...N-Yorks.    Irvine... Sothern England
Cook...glouc/shire.    Alderton... Thingoe/Suffolk

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« Reply #21 on: Friday 17 June 11 21:34 BST (UK) »

1871 census original.

FIRTH, Charles Head  M 25 1846  Knottingley Yorkshire 
FIRTH, Alice Wife  F 23 1848  Askern Yorkshire
FIRTH, Ann E Daughter  F 4 1867  Askern Yorkshire
FIRTH, Mary Daughter  F 2 1869  Stairfoot 
FIRTH, Hannah Daughter  F 0 1871  Stairfoot   

RG10 Piece:4644  Folio:35 Page:20     
 
Stairfoot, Ardsley

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« Reply #22 on: Friday 17 June 11 22:09 BST (UK) »
 Thanks Tuppie, one awaits with baited breath....mick
Pringle..N-yorks.  Swann..Nthamptonshire. Newman..Wilts.  Whites...Surrey/london.  Filce..London/surrey.  McCarthy...Co Cork Eire.
Atkinson...N-Yorks.    Irvine... Sothern England
Cook...glouc/shire.    Alderton... Thingoe/Suffolk

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« Reply #23 on: Saturday 18 June 11 09:31 BST (UK) »

1871 census original.

FIRTH, Charles Head  M 25 1846  Knottingley Yorkshire 
FIRTH, Alice Wife  F 23 1848  Askern Yorkshire
FIRTH, Ann E Daughter  F 4 1867  Askern Yorkshire
FIRTH, Mary Daughter  F 2 1869  Stairfoot 
FIRTH, Hannah Daughter  F 0 1871  Stairfoot   

RG10 Piece:4644  Folio:35 Page:20     
 
Stairfoot, Ardsley

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Not exactly Barnsley area***  ??? above!!! are you sure 1867 Barnsley marriage is the right one?

This Charles in the Barnsley marriage 1867 was 25 = born 1842 -----NOT 1846
In my opinion the marriage residence is not always the place of birth. Never forget Workhouse and overseers accounts records of birth

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« Reply #24 on: Saturday 18 June 11 10:14 BST (UK) »
Morning.. I was chasing out an Alice Hanks to see if and who she might have married or even died, I found the connection through the freebmd, its the only one, the problem I found at first was when linking to the partner you get 2/3 or more to choose from, with a proccess of elimination I got a match to Charles Firth, and refined the date for the marriage, then worked back to there beginings, alice was Bp in campsall and it was reasonable to assume that Charles was from that area, the igi came up with a Charles firth but in 1843, as Alice was registerd for 1848 and married in 1867 she was only 19, so it seems as I cannot find real good match for Charles I am running with him, but if other can find a better match I will have to go with it my problem is I live on the south coast so going to record offices in yorkshire to do research first hand , I have use what is to hand and anyhelp I can get ie RootsChat...........mick
Pringle..N-yorks.  Swann..Nthamptonshire. Newman..Wilts.  Whites...Surrey/london.  Filce..London/surrey.  McCarthy...Co Cork Eire.
Atkinson...N-Yorks.    Irvine... Sothern England
Cook...glouc/shire.    Alderton... Thingoe/Suffolk

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« Reply #25 on: Saturday 18 June 11 10:39 BST (UK) »
I tell a lie just be back into the igi and there is another charles ...3 may 1846 Fish lake yorks out of a Margaret firth, thats a better fit, who pappy is not clear, there a cluster of children all down to Margaret, no fathers name, one has to rely on the igi to tell the truth and not guess or there abouts sort of thing, I have tried to back the info from them with hard facts but not always possible...mick
 
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Pringle..N-yorks.  Swann..Nthamptonshire. Newman..Wilts.  Whites...Surrey/london.  Filce..London/surrey.  McCarthy...Co Cork Eire.
Atkinson...N-Yorks.    Irvine... Sothern England
Cook...glouc/shire.    Alderton... Thingoe/Suffolk

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« Reply #26 on: Saturday 18 June 11 10:56 BST (UK) »
OK! Mick.

All looks interesting but to simplify? can you give us rough idea of your ancestry route back from say 1911 c back from to Alice Hanks b 1848 :) (for Identity theft reasons!!! give  nothing later than 1911c) Location/abodes of Alice's forbears and sisters/brothers etc if you have  come up from a sister or brother to Alice from your ancestor time tree line.


Your coming up to Alice Hanks b 1848 then sideways into her marriage and  husbands unknown ancestry! and siblings down from the  Alice Hanks marriage.

is this correct?

Dobby
In my opinion the marriage residence is not always the place of birth. Never forget Workhouse and overseers accounts records of birth