Looking for a family connection

[aloha]

Help. Is there anyone out there who can help me find a family called Harnaman who lived in the Clocaenog area in Denbighshire. Does the name Joseph or Elizabeth Harnaman ring a bell. If you should be able to help please E-Mail me.

[elizasutton]

Hello, welcome to Rootschat!

Do you have any more information, the people are very helpful here but will need something a little more specific such as what year (it doesn't have to be exact but 1800's? 1900's?)
If you can give as much information as possible, it  will be easier for others to assist you.

Liz

[carol8353]

Hello there and welcome to Rootschat.

This is an open forum and we usually answer questions on the boards,so you won't get anyone emailing you ,you'll read your replies here.

As Eliza says- tell us what you know about them so we don't duplicate work you already have.

Carol

[Hackstaple]

There are several Jospeh Harnamans born in Denbighshire.  What sort of timeline are we talking about.

[aloha]

Thanks for your replies. Elizabeth Harnaman was my partners Grandmother and was born on March 3rd 1861 at Ty Coch Bach Clocaenog. She had a brother Joseph born around 1860 who worked as a Butler in Pool Park Efenechtyd and later as an Assistant in the Mental hospital in Denbigh. Their father was a Joseph Harnaman who I believe married an Anne Lewis.I`m not too sure about that. Elizabeth Harnaman married Cadwaladr Evans and they lived in Ty Draw LLan Cyffilliog. He was a tailor. They had four daughters and one son Ifor Harnaman Evans born in1897. He was my partners father. He moved to live in Chester. I would be grateful for any information that you might have regarding this branch of the family. Aloah.

[Priscilla]

Possibles on familysearch.org ...

Father: Joseph Harnaman
Mother: Anne Unknown

Their children:
Ellen Anne HARNAMAN Christened 28.1.1860
Elizabeth HARNAMAN Christened 7.4.1861 - Died 4.4.1862
Elizabeth HARNAMAN Christened 11.1.1863
William James HARNAMAN Christened 28.1.1860
Joseph Lewis HARNAMAN Christened 28.1.1860
Hannah HARNAMAN Christened 30.3.1851
All Christened at Clocaenog, Denbigh, Wales.
Ellen, William and Joseph all christened on the same day.
Hope this is helpful.

FreeBMD has the following marriage registration listed:-
December 1886
EVANS Cadwalader to HARNAMAN Elizabeth - Ruthin - Vol 11b - Page 501

[aloha]

Thanks Priscilla.

I am confused as to which Elizabeth Harnaman is my partner`s Grandmother.
According to her Death Certicate she died at the age of 72 in 1935. That means she was born in 1863 and it means that the Birth Certificate that I have is incorrect.

There must be some confusion over the fact that as there were two Elizabeths on your list.

I will have to check this.
If you could help clear the matter up I would be grateful. Aloha

[jim1]

As Priscilla has indicated the Elizabeth b.1861 died in 1862.Their next child b.1863 was also called Elizabeth which was quite common after the death of a child particularly with favourite family names.This is the only surviving Elizabeth & listed as aged 8 in 1871.
Is there anything specific you need to know?
jim

[aloha]

Hello Jim,
Yes, You are probably right. The Birth Certificate that I have is for the Elizabeth born in 1861. I will need to find one for Elizabeth Harnaman born in 1863. Do you know anything about Elizabeth after her marriage in 1886? She died in 1935 before my partner was born and he knows very little about the Harnaman side of his family. Are you related in any way to the Harnaman family yourself? Do you know anything about Elizabeth`s brothers and sisters. I would be more than grateful for any information that you might have. I have collected some information on her brother Joseph Harnaman born in 1860. I cannot find Elizabeth on the 1881 Census  although I have treid several sites so I would appreciate some help there too. Thanks Aloha