Born Thirsk 1785

[Nick Carver]

Am keen for local knowledge to be brought to bear here. If somebody (in a census) described herself as having been born in Thirsk in 1785, which parishes would this cover? She was living in York in 1841, so Thirsk wouldn't be the other end of the world to the census enumerator (I presume). This has been the most troublesome bottleneck I have ever encountered - I cannot find this woman's maiden name or place of marriage, but as the two daughters I know she had were both born in her 30s, she may have borne them to a second husband. Any 'out of the box' suggestions most welcome.

[eborfamilyhistory]

Thirsk is a parish in itself, the records are held at the county record office in Northallerton.

In 1841 Thirsk was a Registration District covering the town of Thirsk and quite a large amount of the surrounding area.

[DetectiveDenise]

Thirsk isn't really that big an area and all the Parish records would be held at the NYCC Archive library in Northallerton, she may have been Sowerby, Sandhutton, Carlton Miniott or Thirsk but usually on the returns I've seen they tend to put that. York is around 30 miles which in 1841 is quite some distance   Have you found the marriage with the two daughters?
Denise

[Nick Carver]

Denise

No, all I know about this woman comes from census records. The father of her daughters was dead by 1841 when the elder of these 2 daughters was married. No trace of a marriage for her, but it might be easier if I knew her maiden name. I'm working in Southern Africa at the moment so visits to records offices are awkward to say the least. This has been a long term investigation to say the least.

[DetectiveDenise]

Is it a common surname, let us have a little more detail and we may be able to help.
Denise

[Nick Carver]

Thanks Denise. I'm sure I've run this past the board before, but probably not for 5 years or more.

Charlotte Maltby - my gg grandmother married John Carver in York in 1841. Father of bride shown on cert as John Maltby (leather dyer, dec'd). Charlotte's age suggests she was born in 1818. I don't have many of the details with me unfortunately so I can't remember where she was born. Charlotte and John settled in Hull.

Census records show the mother as being Esther Maltby, b Thirsk. In 1851, she is 65yo. Her younger daughter Ann, married Robert Shearing (both were witnesses at the marriage mentioned). This is pretty well the extent of my information on Esther. I did find a few 'possibles' for John Maltby, but couldn't tie any of them with a marriage to an Esther so this is still an open book also. I am very grateful that you are prepared to take a look, but warn you that it may cause serious headaches. Still, to some people, the fun is in the degree of the challenge.

[DetectiveDenise]

I enjoy a challenge  Will see what I can do
Denise

[JanBLB]

Hi Nick, I've not used this before so hope it's ok!
Charlotte Maltby (1822 York) was my 2x gr. grandmother. Her son Edward, was my Gr grandfather, and his son Joseph ( my grandfather) was the older brother of Bob Carver - of the fish and chip shop fame! I have quite a bit of F/H on the Carvers, but maybe we could pool our knowledge.

[Nick Carver]

Hi Jan

I've sent you a PM with my email address to exchange information. I've not found anyone from Edward's line to exchange information with yet, I am from his next brother William's line. Usefully, Joseph Carver is the only blank I have of Edward's children - all I know is year of birth.