Dukes of Argyll

[Viktoria]

I am willing to be corrected but I thought that the  title"  Duke "was conferred on John Campbell  when he married Queen Victoria`s daughter Louise. That would be about 1870.
The title Marquess of  Lorne is now the heir to the Dukedom`s title , It may have been the title before the dukedom was conferred.                                                                                                   Yet I seem to think it was a Duke of Argyll who ordered  the massacre at Glencoe.
Someone put me right please!
                                                     Viktoria.

[Little Nell]

The Duke of Argyll was the father of the Marquis of Lorne who married Princess Louise.  The Marquis became the 9th Duke of Argyll on the death of his father.

The first Duke of Argyll of the current creation was Archibald, born in 1658.  The title of the Marquis of Lorne is one of the subsidiary titles of the Dukedom and the eldest son usually uses one of his father's other titles.

Nell

[Viktoria]

Thankyou Little Nell. I was mistaken and am glad to have the correct facts.

One title I like is " Lord of the Isles"-- I think that is one of Prince Charles` titles(  am I shooting my mouth off again?) but one such was Somerled, meaning Summer sailor-- Viking no doubt.
Lovely---- Somerled Lord of the Isles.
                                                                 Thanks again. Viktoria.

[Milly Mac]

Hi Viktoria,
I rather like the title Somerled- Lord of the Isles too!
I have been told by others with the same results from their Y DNA tests that I belong to that 'Viking' group who are descended from Somerled.
All sounded wonderful until I 'googled' him & discovered that he is second only to Ghengis Khan for the number of descendants in the world. 
Oh, well, It sounded really imortant for a minute or two. 

Milly Mac.

[Skoosh]

Viktoria, it wasn't the Duke of Argyll ordered the Glencoe Massacre. There was a story that Neil Munro the author was also an illigitimate son of one of the dukes.

Skoosh.

[Viktoria]

I did not know that rumour, however , I seem to remember that from a holiday many years ago Neil Munro was from Inverary.The bookshop was full of his novels.
It was a Campbell who carried out the order though,  hence the   animosity-- to put it mildly- between the MacDonalds and the Campbells.All to do with the lateness of some return or declaration of loyalty.The head of Clan  MacDonald went to Inverary Castle.
The Campbells were  graciously recieved by the MacDonalds in Glencoe whilst all the time they knew what their intentions towards tha Mc.Ds were.
It semes the order was partly rescinded and need not have been carried out but the MacDonalds were a bit well--- a law unto themselves, not for the English (Hanoverian) King at all .The Campbells were seeking advancement etc etc .Boot-licking.
Over simplified perhaps  but the gist is there. I`d like to be corrected if anyone has more exact info.     Viktoria.
                                                                         Viktoria.

[Lodger]

I didn't know William of Orange was a Hanovarian 

[Little Nell]

There is plenty of information on the internet about the Glencoe massacre, which took place in 1692, well before any Hanoverian was on the throne.

Since it is a very emotive subject, it may well be that you should look at a number of sources for the information, e.g. http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/scottishhistory/union/trails_union_glencoe.shtml
http://www.bayviewkentallen.co.uk/glencoemassacre.html
http://www.scotland-welcomes-you.com/glencoe_massacre.html
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/shortcuts/2012/feb/12/glencoe-massacre-campbell
http://www.tartanhen.co.uk/appin/glencoe.htm

And that's just for starters 

Many items show distinct bias, one way or t'other.  I've no idea of the real facts, except that in 1692 something awful happened in Glencoe involving the Campbells and the MacDonalds and a lot of people died.

But we stray from the original topic subject: Robert Campbell born somewhere in Scotland who may be related to the Dukes of Argyll. 

Nell

[Viktoria]

Yes I rushed in again didn`t I.! I know  the Hanoverians were much later and I was  talking with Culloden in my  mind.No excuse except I`m proper poorly.
I,ve a very stiff neck, and can`t look at the screen through my bi-focals comfortably. it is agony !
I`m feeling sorry for myself, but I spent too long for two evenings last week. Serves me right.

Thanks for the info.  Viktoria