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1841 England census abbreviations
« on: Saturday 11 June 11 06:14 BST (UK) »
Does anyone know what S.N. stood for in the occupation/profession column of the 1841 census?

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Re: 1841 England census abbreviations
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 11 June 11 08:01 BST (UK) »
Hi

Can you give the reference number for the census so we can see the actual image please.

evie
Booth, Hornsby, Northumberland & Durham
Jackson, Northumberland & Durham
Douthwaite, N Yorks & Durham
Geldard, N Yorks
Ward, Cheshire & W Yorks
Swallow, Boid, W Yorks
Kirby, Lowe, Studholme, Geary, Emery, Baldock

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« Reply #2 on: Saturday 11 June 11 08:19 BST (UK) »
These are the official abbreviations used in the censuses


Ag. Lab. 1841-81 Agricultural labourer
Ap. 1841-61 Apprentice
Army 1841 Members of HM land forces of whatever rank
Cl. 1841-61 Clerk
FS. 1841 Female servant
H.P. 1841 Members of HM armed forces on half-pay
Ind. 1841 Independent - people living on their own means
J. 1841 Journeyman
M. 1841 Manufacturer
m. 1841 Maker - as in 'Shoe m.'
MS 1841 Male servant
Navy 1841 Members of HM naval forces, including marines,
of whatever rank
P. 1841 Pensioners in HM armed forces
Rail Lab. 1851 Railway labourer
Serv. 1861 Servant
Sh. 1841 Shopman

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Re: 1841 England census abbreviations
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 11 June 11 09:18 BST (UK) »
Thanks for the abbreviations, none seems to fit S.N. unless I'm getting the letters wrong.   To have a look at the image:
Moses Solomon, age 36, St Botolph
England 1841 census
TNA Ref H0107-0725
Image 82
Folio 3/11
P. 16
Entry 8

Many thanks,
Margery


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Re: 1841 England census abbreviations
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 11 June 11 09:36 BST (UK) »
Hi

It looks like it could be Sh to me. The abbreviations Stan gave would fit with shopman. The next person is an errand boy which could fit quite well.

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Booth, Hornsby, Northumberland & Durham
Jackson, Northumberland & Durham
Douthwaite, N Yorks & Durham
Geldard, N Yorks
Ward, Cheshire & W Yorks
Swallow, Boid, W Yorks
Kirby, Lowe, Studholme, Geary, Emery, Baldock

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Re: 1841 England census abbreviations
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 11 June 11 09:40 BST (UK) »
It does look like S.N. to me, there's definite full stops between the letters
The first letter looks like the S of Soloman and doesn't look like the I of Isabella a bit further down, nor the J of James in the same household.

Do you have Moses in 1851? What was his occupation then?
If he's the one still in St Botolph then he's a clothes dealer and the whole family is shown as being from Poland.
HO107-524-F101-P18

Did you also notice there are 3 more Soloman's in the next household?
Hannah 34
Lawrence 12
Asher 8
All born in county.

Here's the image for anyone else looking.
HO107-725-B3-F11-P16
WIMBUSH - Everywhere :: MARLOW/JECOCK/JUSTICE - Northamptonshire/Warwickshire/Oxfordshire :: SCALES/BRIDGES/ENGLISH/SPINK/PETCH/GOOCH/COCKSEDGE - Suffolk :: GARRETT/GIBBS/FEARN - Warwickshire :: DEVOS - Scotland (Aberdeen)/France(Dunkerque) :: MURRAY - Ireland(Down)/Scotland(Lochs) :: TIGHE/TREACY - Cork

Stanley Charles SCALES b.1899 - Where are you?    ***   

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Re: 1841 England census abbreviations
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 11 June 11 09:42 BST (UK) »
Thanks for having a look at it, I was just thrown by it looking like S.N. (with a full stop after each letter) but you could well be right, don't want to read too much into it!

Margery

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Re: 1841 England census abbreviations
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 11 June 11 09:48 BST (UK) »
JustKia, Thanks for your response and for putting the proper image on there--sorry, I'm new to all this.

Good suggestion about seeing what Moses did in other census years, will check it out. Yes, those other Solomons are actually my ancestors (and the address of 115 and 116 Houndsditch comes up in records I've found) and I'm trying to figure out how Moses fits into the picture. 

Thanks,
Margery

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Re: 1841 England census abbreviations
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 11 June 11 09:51 BST (UK) »
Hi Margery, no worries everyone was new to forums at some point - welcome to RC ;)

The 1851 Moses in St Botolph probably isn't the same one.
There's another in Tower Hamlets who is a "general dealer" born Aldgate (which ties in with born in couty in 1841).

2 Coburgh Court, Christchurch, Tower Hamlets
HO107-1543-F213-P5 as SOLOMONS

Moses SOLOMONS Head Married  45 General Dealer b Aldgate
Hannah SOLOMONS Wife  40 b Aldgate (is this the Hannah who is in the next household in 1841?)
Abraham SOLOMONS Son 6 Scholar b Aldgate
Fanny SOLOMONS Daur 4 Scholar b Aldgate
Maria SOLOMONS Daur 3 Scholar b Aldgate
Phoebe SOLOMONS Daur  10m b Aldgate
WIMBUSH - Everywhere :: MARLOW/JECOCK/JUSTICE - Northamptonshire/Warwickshire/Oxfordshire :: SCALES/BRIDGES/ENGLISH/SPINK/PETCH/GOOCH/COCKSEDGE - Suffolk :: GARRETT/GIBBS/FEARN - Warwickshire :: DEVOS - Scotland (Aberdeen)/France(Dunkerque) :: MURRAY - Ireland(Down)/Scotland(Lochs) :: TIGHE/TREACY - Cork

Stanley Charles SCALES b.1899 - Where are you?    ***