Michael Ochiltree---Dean of Dunblane ca1400

[LuRose]

Well I am riding another horsese here looking....I feel Michael is one of my Ochiltrees, however, Wikipedia and other sources have no information to speak of...he was illigetimate, born either to a priest and a young woman, or to a married man and young woman. This would be late 1300. 

Michael was taken into the Kings James and Robert household  both, raised, sent to college and to seminary...etc...among other things..loved by the queens ..I have been searching months and I cannot find substantial information about him....I would like to know who his parents or mother was, and from where, and more about it...

[monks13]

There is a small museum near the cathedral in Dunblane you could try contacting them.
Dunblane 01786 825691.  Did you know there is a street in Dunblane called Ochilltree ?

[GR2]

Have you looked at the book, Fasti Ecclesiae Scoticanae Medii Aevi ad annum 1638? It gives as much evidence as possible about the mediaeval Scottish clergy. Also, have you checked the on-line catalogue of the National Archives of Scotland and of the catalogue of the National Register of Archives for Scotland?

Graham.

[LuRose]

http://muse.jhu.edu/search/results?search_id=1951031557&action=reload

This is the only link I can tie into that....The one you gave me is for the Church of Scotland and Michael was a Catholic Dean...I will keep trying.

He also had a couple of bridges named for him...

Thanks/

[GR2]

The Fasti Ecclesiae Scoticanae gives details of the Church of Scotland ministers. That is what you have found. What my post refers you to is the "Fasti Ecclesiae Scoticanae Medii Aevi ad annum 1638", which covers the pre-reformation clergy. I have a number of twigs on my family tree mentioned in it too (an abbot of Kinloss, a dean of Moray, subchantor of Dunblane etc.). The text of it may not appear on line, but a very good reference library would have it or could order it. I have consulted a copy in the Mitchell Library in Glasgow and the Edinburgh Central Library.

Be careful of 'surnames' in the 14th century. At that period 'of Ochiltree' may just indicate a birthplace or residence or landholding rather that a surname in the modern sense.

Graham.

[LuRose]

Thank you Graham...

I will coninue forward and perhaps get in touch with a library...

But please keep your eyes open andif you read of him, let me know....

Thanks..

Lu.

[CaledonC]

One of the most famous incumbents of Muthill before the period of the reformation was Michael Ochiltree . He was Dean of Dunblane and priest at Muthill in the year 1425 and the Church of Muthill was partly rebuilt for him. He was also the builder of what is still known as the Bishop’s Bridge over the Machany near Muthill as also of another bridge , now disused , but still partly existing , over the Knaick at Ardoch . He was appointed Bishop of Dunblane before the year 1439 and was still Bishop in 1447.

Episcopacy in Strathearn ( Shepherd.1907 )

[LuRose]

Thank you for that information...WEre any of your Plowman sent to America ?  I have a cousin in VA that was Plowman married a Cutlip...

I f you can find any information of the Ochiltrees of Renfrewshire or there abouts, please let me know...
Thanks..
Lu.

[LuRose]

If you all say that Michael is not named Ochiltree, but that he is of Ochiltree Village, what would be his surname ?

When did the Ochiltree family come into being and what would there name have been and spelled ??  It seems as tho no one has a surname only they are ::de-Ochiltree"""

if Michael was sired by the king.,,,,what would his name be ?  No matter if he was, surely there is a surnam of people...How would I research in the 1200 late

All I am able to locate is :: De Ochiltree....

Thanks..

LuRose