MIs in DUNFERMLINE Lays Road Cemetery

[twinpea]

Hi Norrie.  I've tried looking for a death certificate for Mary Ann and also Rachel (at Scotlandspeople) but I can't seem to find anything so far.  I'll try to see if James is related to my great-grandfather William.  But my great-grandfather William Murray was brought up in Dunfermline.  That, I am sure of.  It's even on his tombstone.  But on any census, he always claimed to have been born in Ireland but was brought up in Dunfermline, Scotland.  The problem with finding his parents lie in the discrepancy of his birth year.  On his tombstone, it says 1840 but on censuses when he was alive (in Montreal), he said he was born in 1844 like his (Canadian) wife.  And if I go by the census in Dunfermline in 1851, they say he was 12, which would have made his birth year 1839 (if it's really him).  But sometimes I wonder if he even knew his own birth year.  I guess I have a lot of work ahead of me.  Thank you so much for your help.  I will see if I can find anything with the information that you found for me.  Thank you so much.

[davaar36]

Zoe
There is a death in 1901 in the Poorhouse at Kinghorn for a Rachel Davie, m.s. Murray, aged 54 therefore about correct age (6 in 1851 Census). Parents are given as Hugh Murray and Elizabeth Maxwell. Marriage in Dunfermline 1875 for John Davie and Rachel Murray (age 28). In this Rachel's parents are given as Hugh Murray, deceased and Rosa Murray m.s. Boyle, deceased. From previous experience I would give more credence to the names on Marriage Certificate than those from given by Poorhouse on Death Certificate. Boyle maybe more in keeping with Irish ancestry but this may not be the correct Rachel.
Dod

[twinpea]

Hi Dod, thank you for that great information!  I'll certainly look through both possibilities!  My fingers are crossed.  Thank you!

[davaar36]

Hi Twinpea

Finding "Rosa" as a possible forename for Rachel's mother I had a look at the 1851 Census record you mention re "Ross". I agree that Entry looks like Ross with the old fashioned double s which resembles "fs". However "Ross", the head of family at 8 Bruce Street, is a 36 year old FEMALE so is likely to be Rose/Rosa. Also found that in Bruce Street in 1849 there is a death for an un-named 7 year old son of "Widow" Murray - nothing to tie this defiinitley to your family though.

Jusy got you PM so will respond to that shortly.

Dod

[twinpea]

Oh my gosh, yes!  I had never noticed that "Rofs" was a female.  Thank you for pointing that out.  And you could be right about the name being Rosa.  I will definitely look into that.
Zoe 

[Echovalley]

Please could you look for the following Dunfermline gravesites.  My grandfather's first wife died at the time of childbirth, a Janet Turner, wife of William Turner, d 16th Jan 1908.  Their son Andrew died 10th March 1908.  By July my grandfather was on a ship to NZ, later married and died there.
My gr grandfather Andrew Turner d 15th Aug 1911, his wife Grace d 28th April 1914.
Thank you very much

[NorrieG]

My grandfather's first wife died at the time of childbirth, a Janet Turner, wife of William Turner, d 16th Jan 1908.  Their son Andrew died 10th March 1908.  By July my grandfather was on a ship to NZ, later married and died there.
My gr grandfather Andrew Turner d 15th Aug 1911, his wife Grace d 28th April1914.

Hi Lindemann sorry nothing on index for any of above

Norrie

[Echovalley]

Thanks for looking,

[Janet Mc]

Lots of possible members of my ancestors in Dunfermline cemetery.

1) Thomas SMEALLS (Smails/Smeaill...) and his wife Lilias Mackie (Mackay) post 1851 census (born about 1777/8)

2) Possibly other members of their families too - like their children James and Agnes (Reid) SMEALLS and John Smealls and Lilias Smeals (spinster)

3) Lilias' parents John MACKIE and Lilias Henderson - prob. before 1841

4) Also interested in Williamson surnames before 1840

Would be wonderful to find any burials for any of these.
Thank you so much.