1841 Census

[Manchester]

Can anyone help me find Joseph Burton born 1840 in the 1841 census. The 1891 census indicates that he was born in Westminster, Wilton Street.

[KGarrad]

To confirm your date of birth, there is birth on FreeBMD:

June qtr 1840
Westminster district    Vol 1, Page 354
Burton, Joseph Thomas

[z]

Hi Manchester

So far I have tried and failed to find Joseph in 1841 - however was wondering whether you can provide any further details?

Parents - Occupation - Marriage - Children

I cannot find him in 1891 perhaps you could post this reference -  although in 1881 there is a Joseph Burton Woods b 1840 Westminster wife Sarah T Woods and then in 1901 there is a Joseph Burton Woods b 1839 Westminster with wife Ellen Woods - is this him?

Regards

Z


 

[z]

Hi Manchester

This has taken a few days to work through ........  and it is only circumstantial but see what you think?

1871 RG10 877 20 1 - Civil Parish Cray St Mary - High St
Joseph Burton head mar 31 Middlesex Westminster - Plumber and Gasfitter
Sarah wife 28 Somerset Bath - Plumbers wife
William son 9 London Westminster - cripple
Joseph son 5 Pimlico Middlesex
Minnie daugh 4 Middlesex Westminster
Travena daugh 2 Stoke Newington
Henry son 1 Kent St Mary Cray

Baptisms:- Wandsworth Battersea ChristChurch 26 Jan 1873
July 22 186? - William Woods - Parents: Joseph and Sarah - Abode: Wramms? Cottage Station Rd - Fathers Occupation: Lab
? 12 1866? - Joseph William Woods - Details as above
March 20 18?? - Minnie Woods - Details as above

Baptisms:- Wandsworth St Philip Battersea 15 Aug 1873
Jane Woods - Parents: Joseph and Sarah - Abode 42 Philip St  - Fathers occupation - Plumber
Robert Woods - Details as above
Harry Woods - Details as above
Travina Sarah - Details as above

To note all children baptised as Woods

cont .................

[z]

Hi again

Now here comes the interesting bit .......................... I looked for a death of a William Woods b 1862 son of Joseph and Sarah as he does not appear in 1881 and found this ...............

Burial 18th Feb 1874 of William Wood - Abode 42 Philip St - 12 yrs - Parish Battersea St Mary Wandsworth

and on the same page at the same address is ............. and also the baptism address shown for Jane, Robert Harry and Travina

Burial 21 March 1874 of Jane Woods - Abode 42 Philip St - 71 yrs - Parish Battersea St Mary Wandsworth

Question - so could Jane be the mother of Joseph?

Therefore ...........

cont .............

 

[z]

Hi again

So to look for a Jane born abt 1803 and came across this ....................

1861 RG9 54 106 23 - Civil Parish Westminster St Margaret - 22 Bucking Cottages?
Jane Woods head widow 57 Chatham Kent
Frederick son unmar 17 Westminster Middlesex - Glass Cutter
John son 15 Westminster Middlesex - Errand Boy
William Banks son widow 25 Dartford Kent - Marble Polisher
John Banks grandson 7 Westminster Middlesex

1851 H0107 1479 873 38 - Civil Parish Westminster St John the Evangelist - 129 Regent St
John Woods Head mar 54 Epsom Surrey - Stone Mason
Jane wife mar 44 Chatham Kent
Thomas son 14 Middlesex St John Westminster - Masons Apprentice
Joseph son 11 Middlesex St John Westminster
James son 9 St John etc
Frederick son 6 St John etc
John son 4 St John
John Bourks stepson 19 Dartford Kent - Lab
William J stepson 15 Darford Kent - Marble Polisher

cont ............

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Hi again

And finally living at Wilton St .......................

1841 H0107 737 2 Folio 14 Pg 23 - Civil Parish St John the Evangelist - Reg Dist Westminster
Jane Wood 34 - Not born in County
Susan Wood 11 - Born in County
Thomas Wood 8 - Born in County
Eliza Wood 5 - Born in County
Joseph Wood 2 - Born in County
James Wood 8 or 5mths - Born in County
/
John Banks 9 - Not born in County
William Banks 5 - Not born in County
/
Ann Burton 77 - Not born in County
William Page 30 - Polisher - Born in County
Sarah Page 30 - Born in County
/
Benjamin Hayes 25 - Mason - Born in County
Sarah Hayes 25 - Not born in County
//

cont .........................

[z]

Hi again

Guess who

To finish ...................

I haven't been able to locate Joseph in 1861 however there is this that could be looked into:-

1861 RG9 137 90 17 - Civil Parish Islington - Her Majesties Convict Prison Pentonville
J B prisoner unmar 19 Middlesex Westminster - Lab

Not sure when the name Burton was introduced but maybe this could be the reason for a slight name change?

I also note that in 1841 there is an Ann Burton living in this household - could just be coincidence but maybe worth looking into.

Possibly the marriage certificate of Joseph and Ellen White 1884 might offer a few more clues and may be able to confirm or unconfirm (is that a word ) the above?

And I still cannot find a marriage between Joseph and Sarah T Although the birth certificate of Travena Sarah Woods Freebmd Mar 1869 Dist Hackney Vol 1b Pg 408 should give you the maiden name of Sarah.

All the best

Z

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Hi Manchester

Have come across this and found it rather interesting, and thought that it may help with your research ...

William John Burton Banks - Birth date abt 1837 - Christening date 26 Feb 1837 - Christening Place Dartford Kent - Parents John Banks and Jane

His age and place of birth seem to tie in nicely with census details shown for William Banks b1837 Dartford Kent son of Jane and stepson of John Woods ......

Open once more to supposition unfortunatley - but could Burton have been the maiden name of Jane who then went onto marry John Banks and then a John Woods? And in 1841 is Ann Burton the mother of Jane? And might also explain the middle name used by Joseph.

A little bit more for you to think about

All the best

Z

To Add:- http://cityark.medway.gov.uk - baptism is amongst the Parish Information Online - Dartford Holy Trinity 1561-1984 - Register of Baptisms 1833/1849