Alexander Barron

[Scottish2]

Hi

Here is the Scottish connection I am currently tracing with as much info as I have.

My mom: Janet (Morris) Maroney
Grandma: Ruth (Rylands) Morris
G-Gram: Lina (Barron) Rylands
G-G-Grandfather: Alexander Barron

Currently working on Alexander he was born in Scotland (Area unknown at present) in 1871 (trying to find exact month and date but lost my gravestone pictures of his gravestone to a virus so waiting on my cousin for help here) at the age of 15 he imigrated from we believe either Aberdeen or Lanark (Glasgow area) we also believe he first lived in Conneticutt as Lina was born in 1894 in Tolland Conn. Sometime between about 1900 and 1907 they moved to Providence Rhode Island. As of the 1910 census Alexander was working as a weaver in a woolen mill and amazingly enough Lina at age 15 (as of 19101 census) was working as a spinner in a woolen mill (unsure if same mill as just found this info but guessing there is a good chance).

The 1920 census is a little hard to read but looks like at the 1910 census he had 4 children Lina, Lottie, Alexander Jr., & Gladys and by 1920 he had 5 more children with his second wife Elizabeth. Hard to read but 2 of them are definately Fred and Earl son's 3 & 4. Have a letter out to Fred as he's still alive to get name clarification. I remember from the gravestone pictures that Alexander died in the mid 1950's. Also trying to find out from Fred on my G-G-Grandmother Alexanders first wife.

That's about where my research on this line ends at present there are some additional info for other members mentioned above but currently researching Alexander being he's my immigrant ancestor. Find below the Clan badge and tartan for the Clan Rose which the barron name is addiliated with

[Patricia Irving]

Hi


BIRTH
ALEXANDER MITCHELL BARRAN
26 March 1871
13 Turner Street, Springburn, Glasgow
REF: 622/2/174
Son of Alexander Barran, Ship Carpenter and Jeannett Barran MS Schrier
Married 1864 January 16, London, England
Informant: Jeannett Barran, Mother




regards

Patricia

[Scottish2]

Thank you so much for this info. While I am waiting on my cousin to verify the exact date in 1871 the name matches to a tee as his middle name is Mitchell. I hope the dates match up but somehow I feel they will. I mean what are the chances of lots of babies having that same middle name (I mean I guess it can happen but...)

thank you so much. Once my cousin verifies it will let you know.

Thanks So much!!!

Oh forgot to ask after her name in the son of line what does this mean or might this be her maiden name?

MS Schrier

[Patricia Irving]

Hi again

MS is standard shorthand for Maiden Surname, so Maiden Surname Schrier.

It's a very unusual name for Scotland at the time and you will note they were married in England.  I think it very likely this is the right person if the middle name was Mitchell.

Regards

Patricia

[Scottish2]

Yes the middle name was Mitchell and I got a fast reply from my cousin and even though he's not at his home system the dates seem right with him as well so looks like we found another generation.

THANKS!

[bumper7]

Hi,

I found your post while doing a Google Search for more information on my paternal grandfather, who is the Alexander Mitchell Barron (LSD records have the spelling as "Barran" for some reason...we have never spelled it that way)you are researching! Lina and Lottie were my father's 1/2 sisters by grandpa's 1st marriage. My father was Clinton Barron  and he died in 1988. Uncle Fred is still living and we still communicate by telephone from time to time. I don't know how to get in touch with you other than posting here so, hopefully, you still check in from time to time. Perhaps we could fill in some genealogy blanks for one another!

Donna

[runner]

Hi Donna

You will never find any records in Scotland if you insist there is only one way to spell the name.
Correct spelling didn't exist. It is a relatively modern phenomenon and even now lots of people are not good at it.!

The LDS transcribers were working from filmed records which, after a hundred years, were not in pristine condition. Handwriting was often of wildly differing standard. Some is beautiful some look like a spider crawled over it!

My wife has the name 'Lapraik' in her line.  The LDS have 3 of the sisters in that family spelt Lauperech,  Lawprack, Lawperick. Having viewed the Old Parish Records film they could have been correct but as they all had the same parents it was easy to figure it out.
The records from further back are even more difficult as the script used was archaic.

[bumper7]

Hi runner,

Thanks for that clarification! I'm only recently starting to research my father's Scottish genealogy; prior to that I was focused on my mother's Swedish side. It's just got to be easier to research the Scots (tell me it's true!). The Swede's changed their surnames every generation...a genealogist's nightmare. I'm delighted to have found this site and have already received valuable information.

Donna

[Forfarian]

LSD records have the spelling as "Barran" for some reason...we have never spelled it that way

The reason the LDS spell it that way is that it is spelled that way on the original certificate, as you can see from the transcription Patricia supplied. The LDS IGI, excellent finding aid though it is, contains no 'records' (notwithstanding the heading of the pages). It is an index and it is always necessary to check the original document (a) for additional information and (b) to ensure that the LDS have transcribed it correctly. Mistakes are rare, but they do occur.

Spelling was often pretty vague until about the end of the 19th century. Many people couldn't write, and some couldn't read, so the clerk who wrote the information down could please himself how he wrote it. It is never a good idea to dismiss an otherwise promising-looking entry in the indexes or anywhere else just because "it isn't spelled that way in our family". Sure it isn't, now, but 100 years ago is a totally different story.