Alexander Barron

[johnbarr]

Hi Monica,
Thanks for the suggestions and advice - just what I wanted.

I've been reluctant to use the Scotlandspeople site after hearing stories from friends who found it very expensive, but it might be the only way to trace them back.

I guess I was hoping there was an alternative.

[MonicaL]

Scotlands People is actually really reasonable, if you know what you are looking for. For £1.20 (6 units) you can search and view an image of a BMD on line (much cheaper than ordering English certificates). There is a minimum spend of £6 which gets you 30 units, so you can view up to 5 images of BMDs or census entries. Are you based in Scotland, there may be other ways of accessing this info if you are there.

I did have a look at the 1901 census. There were a couple of possibilities for Alexander, one in Glasgow where the marriage with Janet Low looks to have taken place in 1903. I can post the entry if you would like. Verification that you have the right Alexander will however only be possible from his marriage or death certs though.

Monica

[MonicaL]

John

What birth year do you have for Janet? The only Janet Low I can see in 1891/1901 born in Grangemouth is showing a birth year of 1887 not 1867 surely too young to marry a man born in the early 1850s?

Any chance that Janet married an Alexander born much later? The Alexander Barron I had looked in Glasgow, aged 49 in the 1901 census has a son Alexander aged 18, i.e. born 1883.

Monica

[MonicaL]

I'll post the census entries and you'll see better what I'm referring to:

The Barrons in 1901, everyone showing as born in Glasgow except for Alexander Snr.:

Alexander Barron 49, Maruie (?spl) Engine Fitter b. Edinkille Parish, Morayshire
James Barron 20
Alexander Barron 18, Litho Artist (apprentice)
Angus Barron 16
Jeanie Barron 13
William Barron 11
Elizh Ann McPherson 30, niece, b. Inverness

Address:180 Berkeley St, Kelvin, Glasgow Sandyford

The only Janet Low I'm seeing in 1891 with family:

John Low 40, boiler maker, b. Glasgow
Mary Low 40, b. Glasgow
Mary Low 19, b. Glasgow
John Low 12, b. Glasgow
Margaret Low 11, b. Glasgow
Elizabeth Low 9, b. Grangemouth
Agnes Low 7, b. Grangemouth
Janet Low 4, b. Grangemouth
David Low 2, b. Grangemouth

Address:  112 Lumley St, Grangemouth, Stirlingshire

And then in 1901, with the Lows back in Glasgow:

Mary Low 50
Elizabeth Low 19
Agnes Low 17
Janet Low 14, Milleners Apprentice, Grangemouth, Stirlingshire
David Low 12

Address: 670 Dumbarton Rd, Govan Lanarkshire

Monica

[MonicaL]

Got curious and looked at the marriage 

It is Alexander the father, marine engineer, who married. He shows as widower, parents James Barron, occupation coach xxxx?, deceased and mother, looks like a remarriage, Mary Melrose, formerly Barron, maiden name McDonald .

Just to place him with family, this looks like him in 1861 (as transcribed):

James Barron 37, Coach Driver, b. Alva, Moraysh
Mary Barron 34, b. Dores, Invernesssh
Jessie Barron 14, b. Dores, Invernesssh
Alexr Barron 9, b. Edinkillie, Moraysh
James Barron 6, Knockando, Moraysh
William Barron 4, Rothes, Moraysh

Address:Two Sco Left By Onisbathe, Cromdale, Inverallan and Advie, Inverness

Janet is not the one born in Grangemouth (thank goodness!) but as you said, aged 36, spinster and domestic servant. Parents show as James Low, blacksmith (deceased) and Jane Rae. Her birth shows on IGI as:

JANET LOW  Birth:17 MAR 1867 Bothkennar, Stirling
Parents:AMES LOW and JANE RAE

In the 1871 she looks to be with grandparents (as transcribed):

Peter K(?R)ae 64, iron weigher, b. Bothkennar, Stirlingshire
Janet B Rae 62, b. Cama Wath (?Carnwath), Lanarkshire
Peter Rae 19, b. Larbert Stirlingshire
Janet Low 4, granddaughter b. Bothkennar, Stirlingshire

Address: Fort Row, Larbert Stirlingshire

And her parents in Govan:

James Low 31, blacksmith, b. Labourn, Stirlingshire
Jane Low 30 b. Labourn, Stirlingshire
Agnes Low 2 b. Falkirk, Stirlingshire

Address: 104 Henderson St, Govan Lanarkshire

Monica 

[johnbarr]

Hi Monica,
Many, many thanks for all your input.
I'm in New Zealand, and confess to knowing little about Scotland, though I'm becoming intrigued through reading several of Alexander McCall Smith's books

My inquiry was on behalf of a friend, who has just begun to trace his ancestors. Unfortunately, he's away on Easter Holiday at present, but I'll see if your details fit in with his knowledge of family background as soon as he returns.

Will be in touch, and "Thanks" again from a long way away!

[barronlass88]

Hello all!
I have found this post so interesting! I know it's been a while since anyone has posted but I thought it was worth asking if anyone has any information on generations earlier then Alexander Mitchell Barron? He was my G-Grandad, and I'm trying to follow the Barron line back as far as I can. I have a little (not much) information about his parents, Alexander and Jeanette Barron. This is all I have

Alexander Barron b. 1821, Scotland
m. Jeanette Schrier (though I have records that show her name as Harriet Janet/Jeanette Schrier... ) 16 Jan 1865 in St. George, East Middlesex, Eng.
2 Children: Alexander Mitchell Barron (b. 1871) and George Barron (b. 1866)

I hope this information is correct. If anyone has anything else about him or any earlier generations, I would really appreciate it. I'm kind of new at this and I'm just getting my feet wet, so any information or tips/pointers about research would be much appreciated!

Happy hunting!

Whitney Barron



Slàinte mhath!

[MonicaL]

Hi Whitney

Welcome to RootsChat 

Did something happen to parents in the early years of the children's lives? I thought this might be the two boys in the 1881 census:

John Kynoch 38, labourer b. Roadside Aberdeen
El Kynoch 56  b. Roadside Aberdeen
Nell Kynoch 24 coach builder b. Glasgow
Geo Barron 15, nephew b. England
Alex Barron 10, nephew b. Glasgow

Address, 79 xxxx..., Dennistoun, Glasgow

I don't think this is a great transcription, the original on Scotlands People might be clearer. I wondered what the relationship was and trying to check what the maiden name of the mother was, but not getting anywhere at the moment. Also, son Nell's (Neil?) birth should be on IGI if we knew what name it was under!

Monica

[barronlass88]

Hi Monica, thanks for your help!

Here is some new information I just got from my Aunt. Apparently, George and Alex were staying with their father's sister and her husband (that would be John Kynoch and Elizabeth Barron) while their father was staying with his brother, James Barron, and sister-in-law, Mary. There is no record of Jeanette Barron, the boys' mother, so we think she may have passed away and the boys were sent to live with their Aunt. This must be the case, since in the 1881 Census, there's a little 'W' by Alexander's marriage status, which must mean widower. Alexander was a ship carpenter in Scotland, so he probably spent a lot of time at the docks and away from home, so it would make sense for his boys to stay with relatives for a while. I don't think they were big on the idea of single-dads at the time.

1881 Census (This would Alex and George's father, Alexander)

James BARRON  Head  M  Male  57  Scotland Ship Carpenter
Mary BARRON  Wife  M  Female  51  Scotland Ship Carpenter Wife
Alexander BARRON  Brother  W  Male  60 Scotland Ship Carpenter

Also, my Aunt sent me the IGI records for the Kynoch's children:

ELLEN KYNOCH - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Birth: 06 JUL 1858 Springburn, Lanark, Scotland

WILLIAM KYNOCH - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Birth: 17 MAR 1856 Springburn, Lanark, Scotland

DAVID KYNOCH - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Birth: 07 MAY 1860 Springburn, Lanark, Scotland

MARY KYNOCH - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Birth: 19 AUG 1838 Old Machar, Aberdeen, Scotland

ELIZABETH KYNOCH - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Birth: 08 NOV 1842 Old Machar, Aberdeen, Scotland

As you can see, there is no Nell, but there is an Ellen. Why she would go by Nell, I have no idea. Maybe it was a mistake? Anyway this is all new-to-me information, hot off the presses. I'm hoping that with this new information of Alexander's siblings, Elizabeth and James, I can track down some info about their parents, which would give me a whole new generation to fiddle around with!

Thank you again for your help!!

Whitney