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Re: Edgar Gosling- New Brunswick-died at sea
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 07 June 11 17:44 BST (UK) »
I found the Attestation Papers for
A H Angel (Albert Henry)
Regimental Number 709543
wife - E J Angel
176 ? Metcalfe St. St. John, NB
enlisted Sept. 18th, 1915 in Sussex, NB

Another link to Metcalfe Street


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Re: Edgar Gosling- New Brunswick-died at sea
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 07 June 11 17:49 BST (UK) »
http://saintjohnlibrary.com/main.html

Saint John Free Public Library

Hope some of these sites get you closer to the info that you are searching for.

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Re: Edgar Gosling- New Brunswick-died at sea
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 07 June 11 18:15 BST (UK) »
I am just overwhelmed. Whilst you were posting your last 4 posts I had just discovered, through your New Brunswick site, the 18/10/1915 death of Edith Jane Angel/Gosling - just a month after her husband had enlisted . I had known that she had died by his return on a troop ship in 1919. The Angel hunt was going to be next week's post! I had not known of the 1912 birth: they are in the 1910 census with 4 children.

www.goslingfamily.co.uk is what I have discovered on James' 12. out of 16, surviving children ,born 1873-1900. The Angels had come out in 1908 and obviously persuaded the widowed father, James Gosling, to try a new life in 1912. He incidentally returned in 1919 and died in Cardiff in 1922.

Will probably need the rest of the evening to digest - and record - all you have provided me with. Have already asked Louisa's Canadian grandson to apply for Edith's d.c.

Will get back to you tomorrow. Thanks a million.
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Re: Edgar Gosling- New Brunswick-died at sea
« Reply #12 on: Monday 13 June 11 11:13 BST (UK) »
I have examined all the leads you have given me, but unable to find any records for the merchant marine.

I have got Gosling relations in Canada working on it, and now feel that Edgar Taylor Gosling probably died before 1925. The last of Louisa's children, 1920, was named Edgar Taylor Hopkins, but seemingly never knew he was named after his uncle.

Will repost if I get any more clues. Thanks again
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Re: Edgar Gosling- New Brunswick-died at sea
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 14 June 11 16:06 BST (UK) »
Note that on archives.gnb.ca/ there are also some Saint John funeral home records. There is one for Albert Henry Angel that gives the married name of one of his daughters.
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Re: Edgar Gosling- New Brunswick-died at sea
« Reply #14 on: Tuesday 14 June 11 20:57 BST (UK) »
Jorose

Thanks for that pointer. Not only did I find Albert Henry Angel's 1953 death, but also the marriage of his daughter, Gladys Angel to Frank Jeffrey in 1929. And they were still living in the same  house 19 Hammond Street St. John in 1953!

So, although I have yet to find out how and when Edgar Taylor Gosling met his death, I have got much further with the lives  & descendants of both Edith Jane Gosling/Angel  and Louisa Gosling/Hopkins.

The latter only stayed in Saint John until 1927. But she had 3 sons there, Ernest Hopkins 1917, Robert/Robbie Hopkins 1918 & Edgar Taylor Hopkins Oct 1920. The lastborn lost 2 of his fingers aged 2,  chopped off accidentally by his 4 year old brother who was in the basement chopping the family wood - unbelievable to us today!! Edgar Taylor Hopkins  was at sometime, aged 3??,  shipped to an aunt in Cardiff, returning from there to Quebec in August 1929 - have found that shipping record. I just wondered what newspapers survive from that era? - if either of these facts might have been recorded?. His father, Frank Hopkins, worked for the Atlantic Sugar Refinery in St. John.

Chris
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Re: Edgar Gosling- New Brunswick-died at sea
« Reply #15 on: Wednesday 15 June 11 09:30 BST (UK) »
http://archives.gnb.ca/APPS/NewspaperDirectory/?culture=en-CA
 - plenty of surviving newspapers, just most of them aren't online or indexed but microfilmed and held in various places.
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Re: Edgar Gosling- New Brunswick-died at sea
« Reply #16 on: Thursday 16 June 11 16:14 BST (UK) »
Jorose
Thanks for that. As you say, lots of newspapers to search were I in Saint John.
Have a dead computer at present - so replying on my husband's.
Should be back in business next week!
A living Gosling born 1923 remembers that Aunt Annie had a small Canadian boy -Edgar Hopkins seen below - living with her in Cardiff!!, but does not think she ever met him.
I do not yet for certain whether this photo was taken in  St. John or in Cardiff.

Chris
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Re: Edgar Gosling- New Brunswick-died at sea
« Reply #17 on: Friday 24 June 11 08:52 BST (UK) »
Still working on the small boy Edgar Taylor Hopkins, born 1920 Saint John. Lost his 2 fingers in 1922/3 and was sent to the UK sometime between 1924 & 1929, "a very unhappy time for Edgar",  most likely aboard a ship out of Saint John.

I cannot find him on board a ship in this period. Are there any other searches that can be done other than the records on Ancestry? Family myth has a 4 year stay in the UK.

I have failed to prove whether the '1927' photo of him above was taken in Cardiff, with this cruel aunt,  Annie Gerrard, nee Gosling, or  whilst he was still in Saint John.

His parents, Frank & Louisa Hopkins , probably left the  Atlantic Sugar Refinery, Saint John, in 1927 and went to the International Paper Company of Newfoundland Limited, Corner Brook, Newfoundland and shortly afterwards to  the newly opened paper mill in Dolbeau, Quebec.  Vast distances to travel!

http://www.goslingfamily.co.uk/louisa-1899/louisa-1899.html

gives any additional information anyone kind enough to help me might require .

Many thanks
Lyons, Stephen b1827 & Timothy b1832- Cork, Ireland
Tobin - Cork, Ireland
Andrews - Dorset & London
Richards - Lambeth, London
Sullivan & Walsh - Waterford, Ireland
Parchment - Essex
Rousell - Kent
Mead - Dunmow, Essex
Turner - Stebbing, Essex