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Re: Donald Fraser McDonald
« Reply #9 on: Monday 20 June 11 09:14 BST (UK) »
Was the 1931 marriage that you have found for Donald and Elizabeth?

From censuses for Donald, I thought this might be him with family in 1881:

Donald McDonald 39, station master b. Alvie Inv.
Elizabeth McDonald 40 b. Inverness, Inv.
Alexander McDonald 12 b. Kingussie, Invernessshire
Isabella McDonald 10 b. Inverallan, Invernessshire
Ewen McDonald 8 b. Aberfeldy, Perthshire
Donald McDonald 6 b. Aberfeldy, Perthshire
Mary McDonald 2 b. Dyke Morayshire

Address: Brodie Station, Dyke Morayshire

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Re: Donald Fraser McDonald
« Reply #10 on: Monday 20 June 11 11:01 BST (UK) »
Yes the 1931 marriage was to Elizabeth Alexander Morrison 644/200053. They married late in life.
They had a son Donald Fraser McDonald born 1903 Died 1973
Other siblings (only on hear say)  Betty,Alex,Robert,Arthur, Stanley.

The cenus 1881 may be for Donald McDonald born 1842 & wife Elizabeth Fraser born 1836 married 1868 .Parents to Donald Fraser McDonald 1874.

This is why it is so confusing everyone using the same names.

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Re: Donald Fraser McDonald
« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 22 June 11 03:52 BST (UK) »
I down loaded the Marriage for Donald McDonald 1842 parents.
Ewen McDonald & Isabella McIntosh 2/12/1842 Laggan.
SP number: 104/00 00200069
On this marriage it doesnt say anything regarding their parents or how old they were when they married.
Can anyone give me advice on how to go back further.

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Re: Donald Fraser McDonald
« Reply #12 on: Wednesday 22 June 11 09:12 BST (UK) »
Pre 1855 entries for BMDs will be from the old parish registers as it is before the start of official registration in Scotland from 1855. OPR entries, as you have seen, are in the main very scant on info. There are also many missing entries or people not being registered which can lead to gaps in the info. The OPRs were for the established Church of Scotland (ie. presbyterian). Some guidance notes here from SP www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/Content/Help/index.aspx?r=554&613

You have four children showing for Ewen and wife Isabella following their 1842 marriage, all births in Laggan:

1. Donald MC DONALD b. 25 JAN 1842
2. Annie MC DONALD b. 12 JAN 1844
3. Isabella MC DONALD b. 3 SEP 1846
4. Duncan MC DONALD b. 24 JUN 1848

From these dates, either gaps in the registers or an early death for one of the parents?

Would help to find them in the 1851/61 censuses. On Donald 1842's marriage, were either of his parents showing as deceased?

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Re: Donald Fraser McDonald
« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 22 June 11 09:18 BST (UK) »
This looks like the family in 1851 in Kingussie and Insh, next door to Laggan (everyone showing as born in Laggan except young Donald):

Ewan McDonald 32, widowed, gamekeeper
Donald McDonald 9 b. Alvie
Ann McDonald 7
Bell McDonald 5
Duncan McDonald 2
Christian McDonald 27, sister

Address: Dalwhinnie Beg

See http://freecen.rootsweb.com/cgi/search.pl for indexed entry.

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Re: Donald Fraser McDonald
« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 22 June 11 09:26 BST (UK) »
Regarding establishing parents for Ewen and wife Isabella, Isabella's will be harder to confirm given her death before the start of official registration. You are likely to have to make some educated guesses on that!

Ewen McDonald, you would need to follow through with him to hopefully past the start of official registration where his death cert will include his parents's names.

Making a guess from what we have so far for him  ::) there is this on IGI:

Ewen MACDONALD chr. 20 AUG 1818 in Laggan, Inverness
Parents Donald MACDONALD and Ann MACPHERSON

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Added: The family in 1861, still at the same place:

Ewen McDonald 41, gamekeeper
Donald McDonald 19, school master
Ann McDonald 17
Isabella McDonald 15
Duncan McDonald 13
Address: Dalwhinniebeg
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Re: Donald Fraser McDonald
« Reply #15 on: Wednesday 22 June 11 11:38 BST (UK) »
Thankyou i shall follow through with this info. Regarding Isabella the wife to Ewen she was deceased at their son Donald(1842) Marriage in 1868.
With the marriage of Donald & Isabella it is only a two line entry on page 220 with no information regarding either side of parents.
Hopefully this birth date for Ewen will give more details.

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Re: Donald Fraser McDonald
« Reply #16 on: Wednesday 22 June 11 12:01 BST (UK) »
Don't be hopeful on Ewen christening/birth entry on the OPRs, likely it will be a one liner also. His death cert is really the only to look for in respect of confirming his parents details' and more info.

The link from above www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/Content/Help/index.aspx?r=554&613 gives you an idea of how little information can be included on the OPRs normally. Formal reporting on BMDs only started from 1855 with the start of official registration.

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Re: Donald Fraser McDonald
« Reply #17 on: Thursday 23 June 11 03:12 BST (UK) »
Found Ewen death 8 March 1904 in Kingussie & Insh. Inverness which shows his parents are Donald McDonald & Ann MacPherson
Isabella death is 1850 (shows a correct match on SP)
Found a marriage to Donald McDonald & Ann Mcapherson on IGI 1814 in Laggan, not sure if correct.
Now know two children Ewen 1818 & Christian 1822
Is there a way on IGI to show up all children to a couple?