two ladies - dating and restoring please

[kattie]

Yes, second half 1850s is a good guess :-)

[Treetotal]

Nice one Jim...
Carol

[jim1]

The hand belongs to the young woman who I would say is late teens-early 20's.I've highlighted it so you can get a better view.The white bit is the sleeve of her Bertha.
The older woman looks early-mid 40's.
Thanks Carol.

jim

[CelticMom]

thank you all, that should help me identify them

and thanks Jim for the close up of the arm. It definitely was filled in badly on the glass plate

[jim1]

I've given the sleeve a bit more white to make it stand out more.
The alternative looks more natural but just did this to see what it looked like so you can bin it if you like.

jim

[CelticMom]

so do you think the older lady would of been born about 1805-1815?

[CelticMom]

I've given the sleeve a bit more white to make it stand out more.
The alternative looks more natural but just did this to see what it looked like so you can bin it if you like.

jim

yes I think I actually prefer the alternative. The hand on shoulder just doesnt look right.

[jim1]

1810-15 ish I would imagine.

jim

[CelticMom]

Just come back to this thread again to reread comments, I never managed to identify who they are in my tree, so wanted to have another read to see if it can help me pinpoint who they might be.