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Offline CelticMom

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two ladies - dating and restoring please
« on: Monday 06 June 11 15:42 BST (UK) »
this picture is on a glass plate, not paper. Most likely taken in Edinburgh (Midlothian area)

I have an idea of which ancestors it is, but need it dated to be sure.

Would also be grateful if someone could remove the imperfections.

thank you in advance
Anderson & Marr - Midlothian & East Lothian
Bennett - Devonport
Catleugh & Shiells - East Lothian
Galvin, McLaren, Cullen & Dowling - Waterford, Ireland
Littlejohns - Plymouth & London
Mansfield - Benfleet & St Pancras
Michelin - London
Newlands - Midlothian & Fife
Paterson - Canongate, Midlothian
Rutherford and Johnston - Roxburghshire
Taylor - East Lothian & Berwickshire
Thomson - Leith & Muthill
Thorney, Hawkin, Lewis - Herefordshire
Small & Paulin - Northumberland
Varrall - Kent

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Re: two ladies - dating and restoring please
« Reply #1 on: Monday 06 June 11 17:08 BST (UK) »
Hi Shevy...I Hope this is okay for you.
Carol
CAPES Hull. KIRK  Leeds, Hull. JONES  Wales,  Lancashire. CARROLL Ireland, Lancashire, U.S.A. BROUGHTON Leicester, Goole, Hull BORRILL  Lincolnshire, Durham, Hull. GROOM  Wishbech, Hull. ANTHONY St. John's Nfld. BUCKNALL Lincolnshire, Hull. BUTT Harbour Grace, Newfoundland. PARSONS  Western Bay, Newfoundland. MONAGHAN  Ireland, U.S.A. PERRY Cheshire, Liverpool.
 
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Re: two ladies - dating and restoring please
« Reply #2 on: Monday 06 June 11 17:17 BST (UK) »
Nice one Treetotal.

This is an inquiry stemming strictly from curiosity about this interesting photo & an interest in learning more about sleuthing out the stories old photos can tell.

Given that this is on glass plate, would the people need to be flipped to reflect how they were actually seated? The reason I ask is that the woman on the right has a ring on her third finger of her left hand. It made me think she may be mother to the younger woman (given the pose holding hands), but if the photo were flipped, it wouldn't be a wedding ring.
MACDONALD of Benbecula, Scotland, Earlswood/Wapella Sask
BAIN of Aberdeenshire, Trafford district, Red Jacket and Moosomin, Sask
CHEYNE of Aberdeenshire & Trafford district, Sask
FISHER of Yorkshire, Ontario & Saskatchewan
INKSTER of Shetland, Edinburgh, Sask and BC
GAUNT of Yorkshire, Kent, BC & Australia
KINCH of Ireland, PEI, Ab, Sask
CORCORAN of Ireland, PEI & Sask
GOTZ / GOETZ of Soufflenheim, Alsace & Ont
MITTELHAUSSER of Soufflenheim, Alsace
MULLER or MILLER of Drusenheim, Alsace & Ont

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Re: two ladies - dating and restoring please
« Reply #3 on: Monday 06 June 11 17:20 BST (UK) »
from me

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Re: two ladies - dating and restoring please
« Reply #4 on: Monday 06 June 11 17:27 BST (UK) »
Thanks mystic...not sure about the flipping though.... but Jim or China will put us right.
A sepia version.
Carol
CAPES Hull. KIRK  Leeds, Hull. JONES  Wales,  Lancashire. CARROLL Ireland, Lancashire, U.S.A. BROUGHTON Leicester, Goole, Hull BORRILL  Lincolnshire, Durham, Hull. GROOM  Wishbech, Hull. ANTHONY St. John's Nfld. BUCKNALL Lincolnshire, Hull. BUTT Harbour Grace, Newfoundland. PARSONS  Western Bay, Newfoundland. MONAGHAN  Ireland, U.S.A. PERRY Cheshire, Liverpool.
 
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« Reply #5 on: Monday 06 June 11 17:37 BST (UK) »
Is it just me or does the hand on the shoulder look like it doesn't belong to the woman on the left ??? :-\

Terry
g grandfather Thomas Borthwick 11/11/1882 - KIA 25/9/1915 aged 33 Kings Own Scottish Borderers

Brothers & cousins to Thomas (Both KIA same day)
Robert Johnstone Borthwick 1898 - KIA 24/3/1918 aged 21 North Staffordshire Regiment

George Lowden Borthwick 1899 - KIA 24/3/1918 aged 19 Royal Scots Fusiliers

gr Uncle Walter Combe b1893 - KIA 12/7/1915 aged 22  Kings Own Scottish Borderers

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Re: two ladies - dating and restoring please
« Reply #6 on: Monday 06 June 11 17:42 BST (UK) »
The fingers look to have the same shaped tips as the younger woman's, but the hand does appear at an odd angle, & it makes one wonder why we can't see any of the black shawl showing behind the older woman's arm where the younger one's would have been extended.
MACDONALD of Benbecula, Scotland, Earlswood/Wapella Sask
BAIN of Aberdeenshire, Trafford district, Red Jacket and Moosomin, Sask
CHEYNE of Aberdeenshire & Trafford district, Sask
FISHER of Yorkshire, Ontario & Saskatchewan
INKSTER of Shetland, Edinburgh, Sask and BC
GAUNT of Yorkshire, Kent, BC & Australia
KINCH of Ireland, PEI, Ab, Sask
CORCORAN of Ireland, PEI & Sask
GOTZ / GOETZ of Soufflenheim, Alsace & Ont
MITTELHAUSSER of Soufflenheim, Alsace
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Re: two ladies - dating and restoring please
« Reply #7 on: Monday 06 June 11 17:45 BST (UK) »
wow thanks everyone I never expected so many restorations so quickly and they are all brilliant.

I have no idea if the photo is flipped or not, it is completely black/brown on the other side of the glass.

The greeny colour surrounding them looks to me like it has blanked out what ever is behind them, kind of like a badly  done photo editing job, hence the strange floating hand on shoulder and the why their hair is cut off in areas,  plus the area where the woman on the right, arm is resting

This plate was in my grandmothers possession (she recently passed away) and it was in a completely smashed/broken frame, due to how it was stored.
Anderson & Marr - Midlothian & East Lothian
Bennett - Devonport
Catleugh & Shiells - East Lothian
Galvin, McLaren, Cullen & Dowling - Waterford, Ireland
Littlejohns - Plymouth & London
Mansfield - Benfleet & St Pancras
Michelin - London
Newlands - Midlothian & Fife
Paterson - Canongate, Midlothian
Rutherford and Johnston - Roxburghshire
Taylor - East Lothian & Berwickshire
Thomson - Leith & Muthill
Thorney, Hawkin, Lewis - Herefordshire
Small & Paulin - Northumberland
Varrall - Kent

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« Reply #8 on: Monday 06 June 11 17:48 BST (UK) »
If you follow the shadow down the edge of the sleeve were it meets the front of the shawl it goes right down to where they are holding hands.....no way her hand could be on the shoulder. ???

Terry
g grandfather Thomas Borthwick 11/11/1882 - KIA 25/9/1915 aged 33 Kings Own Scottish Borderers

Brothers & cousins to Thomas (Both KIA same day)
Robert Johnstone Borthwick 1898 - KIA 24/3/1918 aged 21 North Staffordshire Regiment

George Lowden Borthwick 1899 - KIA 24/3/1918 aged 19 Royal Scots Fusiliers

gr Uncle Walter Combe b1893 - KIA 12/7/1915 aged 22  Kings Own Scottish Borderers

Census &  BMD information Crown Copyright  GROS - www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk