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Re: James INGARFILL - Whitechapel
« Reply #27 on: Monday 06 June 11 17:40 BST (UK) »
It wouldn't suprise me if he was the 1833/4 James Ingarfill from Knockholt, Kent who married Leonora Ingarfill in 1878.  He was a carpenter and that isn't exactly a common surname.  They also married in London, so he was up in London at times, had no children which perhaps suggests she couldn't and interestingly one of James and Eliza's children is supposed to be a James George Ingarfill, James' father was James and Leonora's father was George!  She probably was a cousin.  You may never be able to find anything to prove it but looks likely. ::)

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(KENT) Lingwell, Rayment (BUCKS) Read, Hutchins (SRY) Costin, Westbrook (DOR) Gibbs, Goreing (DUR) Green (ESX) Rudland, Malden, Rouse, Boosey (FIFE) Foulis, Russell (NFK) Johnson, Farthing, Purdy, Barsham (GLOS) Collett, Morris, Freebury, May, Kirkman (HERTS) Winchester, Linford (NORTHANTS) Bird, Brimley, Chater, Wilford, Read, Chapman, Jeys, Marston, Lumley (WILTS) Arden, Whatley, Batson, Gleed, Greenhill (SOM) Coombs, Watkins (RUT) Stafford (BERKS) Sansom, Angel, Young, Stratton, Weeks, Day

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Re: James INGARFILL - Whitechapel
« Reply #28 on: Monday 06 June 11 21:06 BST (UK) »
Hi

Before they married James and Leonora were living at James' father in 1871. She was described as niece so they were cousins!!!
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Re: James INGARFILL - Whitechapel
« Reply #29 on: Monday 06 June 11 21:10 BST (UK) »
Thanks again!

Right then, that seems to have solved that link (assuming that is the right James)...but what about Mabel Jane (1878) and Frank (c1880)...where were they? :-\
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Re: James INGARFILL - Whitechapel
« Reply #30 on: Monday 06 June 11 21:21 BST (UK) »
Haven't been able to find them on any census, nor Eliza on the 1881 or 1901 census ..... in spite of the usual tricks of no surname, etc. ???
(KENT) Lingwell, Rayment (BUCKS) Read, Hutchins (SRY) Costin, Westbrook (DOR) Gibbs, Goreing (DUR) Green (ESX) Rudland, Malden, Rouse, Boosey (FIFE) Foulis, Russell (NFK) Johnson, Farthing, Purdy, Barsham (GLOS) Collett, Morris, Freebury, May, Kirkman (HERTS) Winchester, Linford (NORTHANTS) Bird, Brimley, Chater, Wilford, Read, Chapman, Jeys, Marston, Lumley (WILTS) Arden, Whatley, Batson, Gleed, Greenhill (SOM) Coombs, Watkins (RUT) Stafford (BERKS) Sansom, Angel, Young, Stratton, Weeks, Day

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Re: James INGARFILL - Whitechapel
« Reply #31 on: Monday 06 June 11 21:57 BST (UK) »
Neither have I...have been trying most of the day!  Maybe they were under initials?  Workhouse?  It's endless! ::)
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Re: James INGARFILL - Whitechapel
« Reply #32 on: Monday 06 June 11 22:59 BST (UK) »
The address for the family given upon the 1878 baptisms of Mabel & Florence (56 Church St) unfortunately appears to be missing from the 1881 census.

See
http://yourarchives.nationalarchives.gov.uk/index.php?title=Place:Whitechapel_Registration_District,_1881_Census_Street_Index_C-F

for confirmation that part of Church St/Minories, Whitechapel is missing.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: James INGARFILL - Whitechapel
« Reply #33 on: Monday 06 June 11 23:18 BST (UK) »
Mabel and Frank were scholars/inmates at the Forest Gate (Industrial) Schools in 1891: RG12/1337/105/21 (census schedule says INGARFIELD - use reference to sidestep any mistranscriptions).

School records apparently survive: http://www.aim25.ac.uk/cgi-bin/vcdf/detail?coll_id=12944&inst_id=118&nv1=search&nv2=

Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: James INGARFILL - Whitechapel
« Reply #34 on: Monday 06 June 11 23:51 BST (UK) »
John James MOY and Eliza, plus visiting stepson Frank "ENGLEFIELD", were at 125 Quinn's Buildings, Bethnal Green in 1901 - same address as their marriage.  NB At first blush the number looks like 126 but on closer inspection the last digit is an old-fashioned 5.

Ref: RG13/295/71/51 (again this will sidestep any mistranscriptions).  If in doubt search for 20 yr old Frank ENGLEFIELD born Minories, as his entry is clearest.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: James INGARFILL - Whitechapel
« Reply #35 on: Tuesday 07 June 11 06:33 BST (UK) »
Excellent!  Thank you - this is slowly coming together! :)
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