Lounds - locksmiths in Willenhall

[Jool]

It just gets worse....

Found Alfred & Edith Loundes in 1911 in Dudley, they're using the name TAYLOR !  Who are they hiding from this time!!

With children Louisa, Annie, May & Maud, and a married Aunt Annie Loundes b. 1853.

Young Harriet not here with them either.

I just don't know which knots in the spaghetti to try to untie first.

Jool

[angel~eyes]

Hi jool the Harriet L belongs to Alfred n Edith on the second census Harriet is listed as Louisa she is cousin Cazs grandmother. I think Ann Maria aka Mariah is Mary Elizabeth Lester-lownds mother as on the 1901census print out says child 8 days old child of Mary Lewis but original says Maria Lester Lownds. They in Wolves workhouse n George Donlan Lester has hotfooted it back to his father n their only child Gertrude is living with John n Harriet. Spells scandal. I found a contact email from before saying Mariah was indeed blind and also simple. I think she went to workhouse to have someone elses baby who John n Susannah later adopted. After she went bk to George Lester n had 3 or 4 more children. The 1901 census says she was 22. No wonder she left for George Darlow x

[denverstevo]

Hi this is my first posting to roots web as I found this thread when researching Joseph Edward Darlow b. 25 Jul 1915 in Dudley.  What stuck me from all the q&a is that the Loundes/Darlow families are a complex bunch.  However, I wonder if you could help?

I have just received Joseph Edward Darlow's birth certificate which gives his mother's name as Maria Darlow (formerly Loundes) and the father as George Darlow.  This throws my previous research completely out the window as I had considered Joseph Edward to be the son of Albert Edward Darlow (1887 - 1961) and Elizabeth Loundes (1885 - 1960).  The B cert completely turns this on its head!

I now suspect that George Darlow is the one b. 1916 in Dudley and d. 22 Aug 1916 in France.  That he was the son of George & Elizabeth Darlow and brother to the mysterious Aquila.  Similarly, that Maria Darlow (formley Loundes) is none other than Ann Maria Loundes, wife of George Lester and mother to Gertrude Lester (who married George's brother Joseph!).

I recall from previous postings that you mention that Maria spent time in the workhouse while her husband was living with his father.  You also implied that she left her husband to live with George Darlow and that their child had then been adopted.

So, can you confirm my suspicions about the complex relationships?  Is there any documentation to confirm this (I can't find a marriage between George Darlow and Ann Maria Lester-Loundes). Was Joseph Edward raised by his mother or adopted by other relatives?

Regards

Stevo

[angel~eyes]

Its all very complex this Loundes/ Darlow/ Lester saga and a deeper web is being wove the deeper we probe. We only know through descendents accounts which we piece together with snippets of census etc till today when you have written documentation that there was indeed a son born of this union. Its all very sad finally when we think Mariah ( as my grandad used to call her) is finally free of George Donlan and seemingly happy with George he is taken away from her and she is forced to raise this child alone.

My Great-grandfather was Samuel Taylor-Loundes Maria/Mariah's sister - Jools ancestor was William Loundes though we didn't know about him to recently as the only census he was on the family were going as Taylor. We know Maria married George Donlan Lester and has 5 children including Gertrude who marries Joseph Darlow son of George Darlow sr and Brother to George jr who later has a child with Maria. Elizabeth Loundes married Alby (Alfred Edward) Darlow and then it gets more complicated because John Loundes an elder brother to Samuel, Maria and Elizabeth Census says adopted daughter) takes in Mary Elizabeth Lester-Loundes b in 1901 whose baptism states her mother as Mary Lewis - its also stated Mary Elizabeth is a pauper aged 8 days. If Mary Lewis is AKA Maria/Mariah Lester nee Loundes its not impossible for George to be the father of Mary Elizabeth but now I'm doubting if George D was actually Gertrude's father as she was born 5 years before they married. I cant see Mary Elizabeth being George D's either as why did she give her to John and Susannah then go back to George D and have 4 more children before leaving him to go to George her youngest would be about 5 or 6 very sad really. Maria would have been 14 when she got pregnant with Gertrude x

[Hilly]

Hi,
My name is Tina I am Alfred loundes great granddaughter, his one daughter is Florence May ( my nan) her some were Alf, john Thomas, Oliver and my dad Charles.
I know she had a sister louise ( married name Whitehouse).
I have photos of my nan and I think she had a sister called ada??
I have a photo of one of her sisters in the photo is a ww1 soldier he survived the war but she died at 21.

[Jool]

Hi Tina, welcome to Rootschat 

You have probably seen my name on this thread already as I am related to the Loundes family on my mom's side.  Do you have any more details of Alfred and Florence May, birth dates, marriage etc. so I can see if I have them in my tree

Jool

[Jool]

Aaah, I have Alfred Loundes b. 1871 who was brother to my great grandfather William.  Alfred married Edith Charlotte Roberts.  One of their daughters I have only as May Loundes b. 1902, also another daughter Harriet Louisa Loundes b. 1897 who married Samuel Whitehouse in 1929.  So it looks like we are connected to the same family 

The other children I know of were Edith, Annie and Maud

[Jool]

The sister who  died aged 21 was Edith Elizabeth Loundes (1894-1915).

[Hilly]

Hi jools,
my nan Florence May was born 1901
died 1984, she married 1921 to john Thomas Poultney (my maiden name)
he was alcoholic nasty piece my dads brothers being older chucked him out, she remarried to a Horace stokes who passed on in 1968.