Wine / Graham Family

[Georgia Mitch]

I'm trying to find my Poppa's (My Grandfather) mum's grandparents, so GG-Grands for me.

His father was Laurence Leonard Wine B 26 June 1910  in either Matamata or Tirau, NZ
His mother was Alma Dorothy Graham, B 29 June 1913 in Waitara and died about 1999.

I was just told that Alma Dorothy's father was named Harold, or Harry, Graham but have no other information on him and no information whatsoever on Alma's mother.

If it helps, my Poppa has 6 siblings, one of whom, Ngareen, died at age 13 from leukaemia. (B 1936, D 1949) All other siblings are still alive, I don't have conact with any of them though.

Any info will be greatly appreciated! Alma's parents are the last two of my great-great grandparents I have yet to find things out about.

[Janette]

Hi Geah,

Here is Alma's death

1999/23112 Wine  Alma Dorothy  born 29 June 1913

Cheers Janette

[kiwihalfpint]

Alma is buried in Manukau Gardens


http://www.rootschat.com/links/0bm5/

Cheers
KHP

[Georgia Mitch]

Thank you for the responses.

[Janette]

L L Wine's parents marriage

1886/1085 Cathrine  Barry  Alfred James  Wine  



Here are L L Wine's siblings

1887/18944 Wine  Alfred James  Catherine Alfred James
1888/7181 Wine  Rosa Jane  Catherine Alfred James
1890/1263 Wine  George Richard  Catherine Alfred James
1892/960 Wine  Flora Alice  Catherine Alfred James
1893/15736 Wine  Elsie May  Catherine Alfred James
1895/8665 Wine  Myra Viola  Catherine Alfred James
1897/12734 Wine  Howard Garrett  Catherine Alfred James
1904/6042 Wine  Victor Frederick  Catherine Alfred James
1905/1933 Wine  Olga Zilla  Catherine Alfred James
1908/4704 Wine  Daisy Vera Catherine  Catherine Alfred James  
1909/23592 Wine  Laurence Leonard  Catherine Alfred James
1972/154928 Wine  Lela Mabel Winifred  Catherine Alfred James

Cheers Janette

[kiwihalfpint]

The divorce record of Alma and Laurence is held at Auckland Archives.

http://www.rootschat.com/links/0cfc/

Unfortunately this has been restricted for 60 years.

Cheers
KHP

[Georgia Mitch]

Thanks Janette & KHP

I did know that Laurence re-married but didn't know where they were living at the time of divorce so didn't know where to look.

[Beg Clonrode...]

Hello....

Do you know if Alma had any older siblings born pre-June 1911. If so you could trace her parents via them and the BDM Historical website, which would then lead to her grandparents.

If not, I'm happy to be proven wrong :-) but unless there is a mention of Alma Dorothy GRAHAM on the NZSG CD (anyone got access to it) I can only think of three ways of finding Alma's parents and grandparents.

i) Go to any medium sized library here in NZ and look through the 1913 NZ Births fiche for Alma Dorothy GRAHAM registerd in Waitara (or whatever the local registration district was called at the time). You could then order her birth certificate which would list her parents. Then their marriage could be traced via the BDM NZ Historical website. Then purchase their marriage certificate which would list Alma's four grandparents. Total cost 2 x $20 certificates (or printouts) plus a library visit.

ii) Wait another 24 months until 30 June 2013 at which time the 100-year restriction on viewing her birth details online will be lifted. The names of Alma's parents will be visible on the BDM NZ Historical website. Then just find their marriage on the same website and purchase their marriage certificate. This will list Alma's four grandparents. Total cost 1 x $20 certificate (or printout) plus 24 months of thumb twiddling.

iii) Purchase Alma's marriage certificate (or printout). The folio reference is listed on the NZ Marriages CD. This will list her parents. Then find their marriage via the BDM NZ Historical website and purchase their marriage certificate. This will list Alma's four grandparents. Total cost 2 x $20 and a CD lookup request.

Like I said, happy to be proven wrong :-)

Regards
Beg

[Thamesite2017]

If not, I'm happy to be proven wrong :-) but unless there is a mention of Alma Dorothy GRAHAM on the NZSG CD (anyone got access to it) I can only think of three ways of finding Alma's parents and grandparents.

Alma is on the CD in the South taranaki index
parents J H & A Graham
Place Opunake (date given in 1913)
further info for this database is from Hawera branch of NZSG

Bye
althea