Archibald Leslie COOPER

[coopsgal]

trying to find past family history for archibald leslie cooper he was born in seymour tasmania 24-2-1899 his first wife was mavis mcintyre craig they had arthur leslie cooper and mona adele cooper birthdate unknown. His 2nd wife was lilliam may Eames they were married 13-9-1935 and they had a son gary richard tasman cooper .I know archibalds father was george cooper from tasmania but i cant find nothing on him except for his wife was louisa wilkins. I have spent 3 weeks tracing information only to find out it was wrong please please help me                            thanks sam

[rotosis]

hi coopsgal

come back into rootschat a bit later tonight.........presuming your in australia!.. and someone might be able to help you.

rotosis

[cando]

Hi Sam

Welcome to rootschat

I can't find a birth on the date you mention for Archibald Leslie COOPER, however this looks like his birth in 1896.

COOPER Archie Leslie
Father George  Mother Louisa WILKINS
5 Feb 1896
At Glanmorgan  Reg#940/1896

His parents' marriage
COOPERGeorge Alexander  24 years
WILKINS Louisa 20 years
7 Feb 1881
At Fingal  Reg#25/1881

and his siblings
COOPER Charles  born 5 Apr 1881 at Fingal  Reg# 692/1881
COOPEREda Rosina born 9 Sep 1882 At Fingal Reg#1284/1881
COOPER George born 26 Sep 1886 at Glamorgan  Reg#1695/1886
COOPER Hilmer born 8 Aug 1888 at Glamorgan  Reg#1882/1888
COOPER Clara Maria born 11 Jul 1891 At Glamorgan  Reg#1804/1891
COOPER William John born 23 Jun 1893 At Glamorgan Reg#1033/1893

According to his age at time of marriage, George was born c1857

There is this birth, but no way of knowing if it is you man.

COOPERGeorge
Father Joseph  Mother Matilda KEMP
9 Jan 1856
At Sorell  Reg#1472/1856

This is likely Louisa's birth
WILKINS Louisa
Father William  Mother Hannah RUSSEL
4 Nov 1860
At Glamorgan  Reg#1205/1860

his first wife was mavis mcintyre craig

This does not appear to be correct.  The births of two children also have the father Arthur Leslie COOPER. 
Marriage
COOPER Arthur Leslie
CRAIG Mavis McIntyre
2 Nov 1916
At Zeehan  1916  Reg#18434

On the 1919 Electoral Roll there is a Archibald Leslie COOPER and Mavis McIntyre COOPER living at Linda, Tasmania.  His occupation is labourer.

Records are not available after 1930 in Tasmania.

Is this the death of your Mavis McIntyre CRAIG?
COOPERGiven Names: Mavis
Father Craig Wm Jno  Mother Amelia  DEBRO
At Prahran  36 years  1934  Reg#6458

Marriage in Victoria
COOPER Archibald Leslie
EAMES Lillian May
1935  Reg#10706

and Lilian's death
COOPER Lillian May
Father Eames Richd Henry  Mother Lillian May  THOMAS
At Preston  31 years  1945  Reg#6052

Lillian is buried at Preston Cemetery
http://www.prestoncemetery.org/old/search/
COOPER Lillian May 
Section H    #06184    
28 Jun 1945    31 years.

Cheers
Cando

[cando]

Mavis's birth

Victoria
CRAIG Mavis Mcintyre
Father William John   Mother Amelia DIBRO
At Broomfield  1898  Reg#1264

This looks to be an inquest into the death of

COOPER George born 26 Sep 1886 at Glamorgan  Reg#1695/1886

http://portal.archives.tas.gov.au/menu.aspx?detail=1&type=Q&id=9093
Newspaper item
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0djs/

Death Notice for George COOPER husband of Louisa, aged 59 years.  So now born c1848 not c1857 as stated on his marriage reg.
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0djt/

COOPER George
No parents noted
5 Jun 1907 At Ellendale  Reg#356

Cando

[Aussie1947]

Hi,

There appears to have been a few George Coopers in Tasmania but this is the earliest Directory reference I can see for your George.

Tasmanian Directory 1887 (Middleton & Maning)
GLAMORGAN DISTRICT
Cooper, George , Swansea.

Regards
Gerry

[johngirl]

Hello Sam and everyone who has helped Sam.

I have established that this is not her George Cooper.

COOPER George
Father Joseph  Mother Matilda KEMP
9 Jan 1856
At Sorell  Reg#1472/1856

This George Cooper died 25/6/1885.He is buried at the Henry Street Cemetery Sorell in Tasmania.On his headstone it states that he was the son of Joseph and Matilda Cooper.( I have a photo of the headstone)
As this George died in 1885 he therefore cannot be the father of Archibald (Archie) Leslie Cooper born in 1896 and in my research I found that this George Cooper never married.
Matilda Cooper (nee Kemp) is my GGGG Aunt.

Unfortunatley the Tasmanian Family Colonial Links Data Base     has all the wrong information on Sam`s Cooper family and has led her on the wrong track with her George Cooper.Hopefully someone can help her find the right George Cooper.


  Johngirl

[Dundee]

The 1907 death certificate for George COOPER as posted by Cando should give a place of birth for George if the informant knew.  As Louisa was still alive, hopefully she was the informant and provided the correct information.

Debra 

[coopsgal]

thanks everyone for all your help. Your right johngirl I did think that joseph and mailda were my george's family but then i was in contact with one of the family members who sent me a photo of his head stone and realised it was impossible for him to be my george. condo thankyou for the death notice information. All the information on mavis is right, I to found that the  marriage information said Arthur Leslie Cooper but this is definetly wrong Arthur leslie was her son, I didnt know lillian was buried at preston thats great news, Gary cooper, lillian's son was only 8 when she died so he never really had any information on her, Gary is my husbands dad.
                                               thanks again coopsgal

[cando]

Glad I covered my back with this one   Also George appears to have been a little older than this anyway...well according to his death notice.

There is this birth, but no way of knowing if it is you man.

COOPERGeorge
Father Joseph  Mother Matilda KEMP
9 Jan 1856
At Sorell  Reg#1472/1856

I to found that the  marriage information said Arthur Leslie Cooper but this is definetly wrong

coopsgal

The births of two children also have the father Arthur Leslie COOPER.

Cando

Perhaps the same person did the three transcriptions for the indexes.  However I did mention that the electoral roll had Archibald Leslie COOPER at the same address as Mavis.

Just for the record, I didn't take the bdm info from the Tasmanian Family Colonial database.

I agree with Dundee....you need the 1907 death cert to progress with your research.

Cheers
Cando