Frances Beatrice WHITTICOMBE

[AussiegalRae]

All interesting.

Talking to Mum about this yesterday and I find that Frances Beatrice Whitticombe and James Patrick Clarke actually lived at Loch for some years.

James moved in with Myrtle Annie Craythorn [my great grandmother who died in 1972] and her husband Lindsay Gordon [Samuel] Clarke at Loch/Almurta until his death but Mum isn't sure whether it was because his wife had died or not.    James was still living there when he died and the place of death probably was the Wonthaggi hospital. 

Myrtle told Mum this.

I noticed today that someone in the Townsend family also has very little information about Frances and has her listed as marrying a Whittaker. 

[Tarzan]

Yes. That's the mystery even Myrtle did not seem to know about her own other in Law. lot of those info things are mine as been nearly 30years trying to find out. This site has now a couple helping me with it. which is great.Whittaker now in the picture.Not sure if that is correct but worth a look.
Isabells info was all handwritten in excercise books she once told me,and stored at a daughters.

[Tarzan]

No Birth certificate for Frances. No birth date either,unsure where that date came from.Think maybe guess perhaps,hence the 5yrs. Taken from age on a birth of child. First child was 1885 James Raymond Clarke. Perhaps Myrtle thought or knew it was June.
Myrtle passed away year after Alice but she did not know much when I had a chat to her. Unfortunately I never knew of her existance until my Mum's funeral.She showed up out of the blue.I only talked to her for couple hours.

[AussiegalRae]

Hi.

Mum has everything Grandma had she tells me.

She's going to see if there's anything Grandma may have forgotten about but I have the written notes on James and Frances that Grandma had and she seemed to only have put in the information she was sure of.

Myrtle has mentioned a couple of things that happened around the time they were in Loch but definitely some sort of estrangement occurring there somewhere.

I met my great grandmother a few times when I was little, we have the 4 generation photo taken when I was about 8.  She was the first family member I knew of who had died and we weren't allowed to go to the funeral.

Considering it's family affairs, maybe Myrtle didn't really want to say much about her mother-in-law?

I have a question that's not directly involving Frances, but do you know much about your uncle Lindsay Clarke?  Details after January 1944?

[sparrett]

Death
CLARKE James Patrick
Father Clarke Edward  Mother Margaret CONNOR
At Wonthaggi   82 years  1943  Reg#18712  CANDO


Have all those certificates  Cando Thankyou.  TARZAN


Regarding the death certificate of this man.

Who was the informant?

Where was he born?

What is said on it regarding his marriages and children?

Sue

[Tarzan]

All six children are named on his Death Certificate.Weird thing is to Whom Married and someone has put Hamilton Victoria aged 22

 To whom James Hustler so we searched and found nothing to prove or work this out. As should have shown  Frances name.
Authorised Informant was the Agent John Dennis Keady  not family member

[Tarzan]

to Aussie Rae . We could never work out what happened. Have a Death certificate Isabell and I have but unsure it is him. Buried as Leonard and Lindsay. I had big search done with Cemetery people they could not tell who actually was in grave as have to go Burial notice and that was Leonard.Death was Lindsay
 May not even be him,but could find no other information.Mum never mentioned where he went,but Myrtle said he left  and she saw him once and never again. He it seems wanted her to move and as one daughter had polio she refused .That was it. Think age also was a bit out.
Understand also back then people kept family matters quiet,Don Clarke also hunted but no luck. We all hunted for any family history. Love a copy of that photo if I could.

[sparrett]

I wonder if you would take the time to be a little more specific Tarzan.



Each column  on a certificate has a heading in small writing.


Are you able to tell us what exactly is written in each of the columns using the words which are actually used on the document.


You have given in your answer the impression he married someone named HAMILTON  or a man named JAMES HUSTLER

Sue

[Tarzan]

 Pardon me. Where married Hamilton Victoria. at what age 22 .and to whom James Hustler