ROBERT GIBSON ALLAN - Mystery

[DaveM888]

The granddaughter is unlikely to be the correct one. In 1881 census she would have been 22/23 as registered as Mary Jane Allen Oct-Dec 1858. There are a few Mary Allans born 1859/1860.

Mary Jane Allan/Allen marries November 1881 so should show somewhere in her maiden name in both 1871 and 1881 census.

As regards the Gibson family, I suspect not as they seem Northumberland family.
Dave

[DaveM888]

All who have helped so far
Now have Robert Gibson Allan's marriage certificate that shows his fathers name was John Allon and occupation Joiner. So odddly different spellings on the same certificate
Dave

[sancti]

1871 census

Robert P Allan 36 Head born: Kirkwall, Orkney, Scotland occ mariner
Jane Allan wife dressmaker
Jane Ann Fawnett 13 Niece

 
Living in

1 Howard Street
St Ann
Newcastle Upon Tyne
Northumberland


ADDED

This Robert also appears on the 1861 census 

[DaveM888]

Great becuse that ties in with what I have just found

1861 census South Shields Family consisting of John Allon 40 born Scotland, Elizabeth Allon 38,  Elizabeth Allon 8, Joanna Allon 5, Mary C Allon 66, Hachinston 26

SCottish census 1851
Robert Allan parents John,Elisabeth b1833 born Sandwick,Orkney living Sandwick,Orkney

Actually spotted the ione Sancti gave had middle initial P, so ge was probaly not mine.
Many Thanks
Dave

[DaveM888]

The Orkney Robert Allan is not the one I am looking for as I found the following
Robert Grant Watt Allan
birth: 19 Jun 1832
residence: 1832 —Orkney, Scotland
parents: John Allan, Betty Thomson (betty would be Elizabeth)

I now have the following possibilities
                     Parents             Born             Birth                     Resident(1851)
Robert Allan John,Margaret  1833 Brechou,Forfar Cy           Dundee, Angus
Robert Allan John,Hellen    1832 Cumbernauld, Dumbartonshire Cumbernauld, Dumbartonshire
Robert Allan John, Mary     1834 Cumbraes, Buteshire         Largs,Ayrshire
Robert Allan John, Marion   1834 Airdrie, Lanark             New Monkland,Lanarkshire
Robert Allan John, Ann      1835 Dornoch, Sutherland         Tarbat,Ross and Cromarty
Robert Allan John, Mary     1835 Hamilton, Lanark            Hamilton,Lanarkshire

[MonicaL]

Dave, you probably need to cross reference these family groups and fathers John against the occupation of joiner that showed for Robert's father on his 1856 marriage cert. For joiner, you should also search for wright/carpenter/shipwright which may well be other ways for this occupation to come up.

Just a note on the spelling of Allan. Remember in those times, spelling were relatively fluid (and the transcriptions certainly add to this!). Where possible I would search as All*n to pick up on any spelling variations. There will be no right or wrong on any spelling variant that you find.

Monica 

[sancti]

1841 possible but Robert's age is out

John Allan 35 occ wright
Christian Robertson 35
David Allan 10
Elisabeth Allan 8
Henrietta Allan 6
Jane Allan 4
Jannet Allan 2
Robert Allan 3 MO


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