ROBERT GIBSON ALLAN - Mystery

[DaveM888]

Help - I have a Robert Gibson Allan born circa 1833 who originates from Scotland as declared in 1861 census for South Shields, Durham. I have no other clues other than the fact his father was John Allan as declared in his marriage in 1856 in Durham. There are lots of Robert Allans show up but none with initial G or actual middle name Gibson. I have no other clues, any ideas of how I might trace him?
Dave

[Rodeo]

Hi Dave

Do you have his death certificate? This could well be your Robert:

Robert Allan, est. birth year 1834, died Jan/Feb/Mar 1895, age 61, Stockton, Durham, Vol 10a, page 29

It's worth a look.

Cheers,

Rodeo

[sancti]

You could try looking into any Poor Relief applications he made as these would record the parish of his birth

[alicook]

Help - I have a Robert Gibson Allan born circa 1833 who originates from Scotland as declared in 1861 census for South Shields, Durham. I have no other clues other than the fact his father was John Allan as declared in his marriage in 1856 in Durham. There are lots of Robert Allans show up but none with initial G or actual middle name Gibson. I have no other clues, any ideas of how I might trace him?
Dave

Hi Dave,

Did Robert give his fathers occupation?

Ali

[DaveM888]

I obtained marriage details from FamilySearch and that his father was John Allan, as yet do not know occupation. I have jyust sent off for mariage certificate, will update this topic if it reveals anything extra.
Dave

[Rodeo]

Hi Dave

Is this your Robert Allan in the 1861 census, residing at 24 Wellington St, Westoe, South Shields, Durham?

Robert Allan, 28, head, Mariner and Naval Volunteer, b. Scotland
Jane Allan, 25, wife, b. Middlesex, Paddington
Mary J Allan, 2, daughter, b. Durham, South Shields

Cheers,

Rodeo

[DaveM888]

Yes this is him, the only entry I have for him, nothing after that 1871/1881 and nothing before other than his marriage entries on FamilySearch and South Tyneside Registrars for 1856. I have a topic on Durham forum to try and find him in 1871/1881.
Given he was a mariner and naval volunteer he may have been at sea in 1851 as he would be about 18.  But he should show in 1841 census aged about 8 with a father John.
At face value a rumour in our family is t"hat it was possibly Dumfriessshire he came from and his family had a shipyard"
Dave

[Rodeo]

Hi Dave

Did you notice that on the same 1861 census, living just nearby at 25 Wellington St, are Gibsons to whom Robert may well be related?

Alice Gibson 46, head, widow, b. Durham, South Shields
Nicholas B. Gibson, 18, son, shipwright, b. Northumberland, Blythe
Thomas R. Gibson, 16, son, shipwright, b. Durham, South SHields
James E. Gibson, 14, son, shipwright, b. Northumberland, Blythe
Henry E. Gibson, 12, son, scholar
Isabella, 10, daughter, scholar

Cheers,

Rodeo

[Rodeo]

I wonder if, in fact, the maiden name of Robert's mother was Gibson and these Gibsons are her relations.

Also, I had a look for Mary J. Allan, who was age 2 in 1861. There's a record in the 1881 census for Durham that's worth a squizz. The family is living in Elemore Lane, Hetton Le Hole Durham.

Sarah Allan, 80, head, widow, b. Yorkshire, Leatham Holme
Sarah Allan, 42, daughter, dressmaker, b. Durham, Easington Lane
Mary Allan, 21, granddaughter, dressmaker, b. Durham, Easington Lane

Do you think this could be Robert's daughter living with her grandmother?

Cheers,

Rodeo