Cleveland, Crumpsall

[BucksExile]

I want to say a big thanks to Williebat for helping me regarding some info. Done off his own bat too. Nice One!
This will encourage me to post more & share info. Surely the spirit of Roots.
Ta mate.
Bucks

[Gibel]

www.workhouses.org.uk has a lot of information on both the Prestwich Workhouse (Prestwich union) and the Crumpsall workouse (Manchester union). Tjhrere is a map showing they were next door to each other.

Gibel

[MancsMan.]

That sounds right now    - large building in the parish of Prestwich - it's got to be the Prestwich Union

Extract from http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=41414

Among the more recent landowners and residents of Crumpsall the Delaunays may be mentioned. Angel Delaunay, from Rouen, in 1788 introduced Turkey red dyeing into Crumpsall and Blackley, and built up a great business. His sons acquired part of William Marsden's estate in 1819, later known as the Cleveland estate. They built a bridge over the Irk for their coach road from Blackley to Cheetham Hill.

[MancsMan.]

Bet these files would make a good read

http://www.rootschat.com/links/0dgo/

http://www.rootschat.com/links/0dgp/

[BucksExile]

I found this.

Prestwich is just north of Manchester. Prestwich Asylum - see above
"The land chosen for the Hospital is in an area first known as Prestwich Wood in 1652. The land was owned by Thomas Compton until his death in 1776, when Nathaniel Milne bought the land, which then came into the possession of his son, Oswald in 1847. The Hospital was opened in 1851 to accomodate 500 patients, and originally built to face West with the main entrance on Clifton Road".
It had 500 patients in 1856.
1856 Report: " Each year the difficulties of receiving patients have increased, and numerous applications for admission have consequently been refused." Out of 58 deaths, 31 were general paralytics. [See Rainhill]
It had 510 patients in 1858.
"In 1863 it was extended to accommodate afurther 560 patients"
1881 Census: Medical officers were Herbert Rd Octavius Sankey, Henry George Murray and Benjamin Russell Baker (all surgeons)
1884 "the Annex was built. The Annex was built to house 1,100 patients and was served by bus due to it's distance from the main Hospital Site."
1889 Henry Rooke Ley, Prestwich, Superintendent of the County Lunatic Asylum at Prestwich.
"By 1903 the site could handle 3,135 patients from Salford,Manchester and South Lancashire, of which 50 per cent recovered and 6.57 per cent died."
1917-1919 Montagu Lomax assistant medical officer. Published The experiences of an asylum doctor in 1921. "He stated that the patients were poorly fed and poorly clad; that they were closely confined...that the nurses were mostly unqualified, unsuited to the nature of their work". He instanced specific cases of open cruelty to patients. (Jones, K. 1960 p.100)
by 1929 Lancashire County Mental Hopital
1949 Prestwich Hospital
early 1975 Manchester Mental Patients Union and Prestwich Hospital
20.11.1977 Minutes record aproach from Manchester Mental Patients Union about access.
6.12.1977 Manchester Mental Patients Union show film
5.4.1978 minutes record some continuing concern about Mental Patients Union access.
Since 1994: It is now the Mental Health Services of Salford, Bury New Road, Prestwich, M25 7BL. (map)
Prestwich Asylum link (archive)

[TSB]

   My mother  was born in  the crumpsall workhouse in 1917 on her birth cert the address is given as 123 crescent road crumpsall it became euphemism  for the workhouse.The address would even appear on death cert to avoid disgrace.
I hope this of interest
                             tsb

[BucksExile]

Hi TSB ( like the bank?), all info is gratefully received. I think this happened before 1904ish. It was a good idea.

[Paul Shelton]

Hi TSB

Was your mother May Crompton?

James Crompton was my Great Great Grandfather.

[TSB]

Paul
May Crompton was my mother and James Cromptonwas  my granfather.Is there a reason for asking
                tsb