Cleveland, Crumpsall

[BucksExile]

Hi all. I'm a new member to rootschat.
In a census record I came across a house called Cleveland in Crumpsall, M/cr. It seems to be an institution of some type. Does anyone know exactly what this building was, where it was & any history of the place?
A relative was described as a pauper, so was it a poorhouse?

Any info is welcome.
Many thanks

[lizanne]

Hi BucksExile.
There was a union Poor House in Crumpsall which later became a hospital . Can see no mention of it being called Cleveland though ,. If I try googling Cleveland Crumpsall all I'm getting is a hotel and local housing associations.
These links may be helpful.

http://users.ox.ac.uk/~peter/workhouse/index.html

http://yourarchives.nationalarchives.gov.uk/index.php?title=Crumpsall_Hospital_and_Institution

Jane

[willie bat]

Hello & welcome, can you tell us what year census you found this on?
Also what is the full address or houses/streets either side of this house?
I am from Crumpsall but ashamed i don't know this institution, i can only think of the workhouse that has now become North Manchester general hospital. The Cleverland pub on Crumpsall lane is a very large pub and maybe your house was just a small institution between the pub and the hospital/workhouse?

http://www.manchester-family-history-research.co.uk/new_page_5.htm

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c214/uksearch2003/crump.jpg

http://www.flickr.com/photos/manchesterarchiveplus/5248819637/

[BucksExile]

Hello. Ta for the welcome.
 I found this record on the 1891 census. At the top it does say Institution, but the address says Cleveland, Crumpsall. I don't have a record for neighbouring streets, or an address. The record states 25 people there, some classed as Imbeciles. Could it have been a dosshouse?
I have a National Archive reference, but not sure how to use it. I'm a newbie to this.
Sorry I've no more info.

Thanks

[willie bat]

Easy way would be to post one of the names of the people at the institution and DOB doesn't have to be the person your researching ( that way we not been nosy ) and what year census you have them on at this Cleverland house ? Fingers crossed some one will turn something up for you?

[BucksExile]

Hi willie bat.
I'll post the name of the person I'm researching. It will be easier, as there are no DOB's on the census. Where it says age last birthday, they've all been crossed out & are illegible.

Thomas Aldred, born 1828, Pendleton.

The census is from 1891. 
Cleveland, Crumpsall was the address it gave. 

There are numerous Imbeciles and 1 Idiot, which makes me think it may have something to do with Prestwich Asylum, but it's only a hunch.

Many Regards

Bucks

[mosiefish]

Hi,

The enumeration book states:
Description: Preswich Union Workhouse.
Where situated: Cleveland Crumpsall

Mo

[BucksExile]

Hi Mo.
Thanks for that. I never expected anything like that. 10 years earlier he's at home with wife & kids. Where'd it go wrong?

Many Thanks

[goldy]

look in square 1c 1930 map http://www.artus-familyhistory.com/Manchester%201930/Main%20Map.html

it could have been just age?