Cleveland, Crumpsall

[RonOne]

Unfortunately the records of inmates of the Prestwich Union Workhouse appear not to have survived.

For more information see: http://www.manchester.gov.uk/info/448/archives_and_local_studies/3812/poor_law_and_workhouse_records/5

[BucksExile]

Thanks one and all.
I think this answers my question. I'd heard of Prestwich asylum, but didn't know where it was. So 2 answers in one. It wasn't what I expected to find.

[willie bat]

Hi, Prestwich asylum and Crumpsall workhouse are not the same place they are about 7 miles apart.
The asylum was for mental patients and the workhouse was for the poor. Sometimes people were taken in to Crumpsall when ill and could not afford medical bills.
Will send you a PM with more info.

[BucksExile]

Hi. I meant Prestwich Union Workhouse. I believe it was near Crumpsall workhouse now NMGH. A sad state of affairs to end up in a place like that.

[uk2003]

Still does not answer the question

But this link to Manchester Archives seems to indicate Cleveland was an area within Crumpsall

http://www.rootschat.com/links/0df7/  

[goldy]

Cleveland rd still exist and is 2 streets over from the Hospital. Looking at an old directory the Dover st mentioned on Mancsman's link ran Parallel to Clevaland road and is now renamed  Parkhill Ave.

So from this i believe it's definitely the work house.

[BucksExile]

So, Cleveland was an estate within Crumpsall.

[MancsMan.]

Like Goldy says Cleveland road plus Cleveland pub still exist.

What I cannot get my head round is having lived in this area for 50+ years I have never heard the now "hospital" etc called Cleveland

The 1891 census which is referred to only states 25 people, surely that cannot refer to either the Prestwich or Crumpsall workhouse both had capacity for hundreds at that time.

I would be thinking a small Georgian/Victorian property to house 25 people, on what is now Cleveland road, long lost in the winds of time - who is going to remember or be bothered about such a small unit.

Totally fascinated by this posting   

 

[BucksExile]

On the 1891 census referred to it mentions 25 people there, but at the top right of the page it says page 5. So if there's 25 to a page, there's a 125.
It could still be Prestwich workhouse.
I'm thinking maybe the institution could have been divided into sections or areas with different names? Maybe Cleveland was one of these?
I'm intigued myself Mancsman.