RAF Accident/Death 1998 'COMPLETE'

[Plummiegirl]

Not too sure if this should even be on this board, but cannot see where else to post.

My cousin Sqn. Ldr. William Michael Vivian, was killed on a 'routine training flight' with 2 other Tornados off Flamborough Head, on Tues. 16 June 1998.

I have a copy from the BBC Website at the time and have found a report on a UFO (yes!!!) website about this crash.

I have tried contacting RAF Coningsby, but as I am not n.o.k., they will not offer any help.  What I have been trying to get is a copy of his death certificate, I have looked at the death records on Ancestry etc., and their is nothing on there.  Now I know that of the 2 pilots who were in the Tornado, only 1 body has ever been found, would this be a factor and that the death cert. was issued but not available to the public?
Any suggestons or advice would help.  I am in touch with his brother, but as they were 'estranged' he only knew about the
death by chance when watching the telly at the time.  So no help there really.
UPDATE:
Schooner:   really did not need the Nick Pope site, do not think that that will help, have a very sceptical attitude to UFO's hence the exclamation marks.
Nanny Jan: Many thanks for the death ref - 'wonders why it is registered as a death abroad when it happened in the UK?  Would never have considered looking there'  Thanks again.

UPDATE 2:  kyt - many thanks for that link - a very interesting report and explains a lot. 

[Schooner]

Try
www.nickpope.net/

Regards
Schooner

[nanny jan]

Hi,

Found this on GRO Deaths Abroad Indices (1995-2005)

William Michael Vivian   M.O.D. (Air)   1998    Type F   Page 41     Country:  unknown

date of birth:   18 March 1965


Hope that helps.


Nanny Jan

[kyt]

The official accident report for the crash:

http://www.ukserials.com/pdflosses/maas_19980615_ze732.pdf

The reference on the UFO site to the aircraft *disappearing* (the link to which I won't bother posting here) from radar is no surprise when the aircraft was in a steep dive.  Afraid it's another case of adding 2 and 2 together and coming up with 5!!


K

EDIT: BTW as the crash occured outside the limit of British Territorial Waters, that may explain why he is registered as "abroad".

[searching4sumthing]

Hi Plummiegirl

Don't even know if you use this chat forum anymore but I cam across your post whilst searching for information about Bill. He was my Godfather. So so sad.

What have you learnt?

Kind Regards

Chelsea

[danuslave]

Hi Chelsea & welcome to RootsChat

If you click on a poster's name (to the left of the post) you can see when he/she was last on line 

Linda

[Plummiegirl]

danuslave - I have pm'd Chelsea twice since her post sadly her inbox is full and my 2nd message was not accepted.
I come on this site daily and get notifications for my threads etc. so Chelsea need not worry about my not replying.. In fact I am very excited about contacting her.

Oh well its now just a case of waiting.


Cheers

Christine (Plummie)

[danuslave]

Hi Christine

I think it's more likely that the emails are bouncing because Chelsea has only made 1 post! You have to make 3 (or sometimes 2!) to be able to use the PM system.

She hasn't been on since her original post, so I think you're right about just a case of waiting.  How frustrating for you   

Linda

[Plummiegirl]

Yeah, I guessed as much.

But I did notice that she only joined the day she contacted me. 

It is a shame as I am aslo in touch with her godfathers 2 siblings.

Me and my 2 cousins were a lot older than William (Billy).  And I sadly never knew him.

Oh well I will just sit back and wait.

CHELSEA,  CHELSEA where art thou?