Ambrose EYLES - Collingwood

[enzfan]

Hi Sue

Wow!

Thanks so much for this information.

It's interesting to note that Ambrose and Elizabeth's daughter was born onboard ship on their way to Australia.

Yes, I think it would be helpful to get any other information/details you can access as it appears that there must be an EYLES branch in Australia. There are two EYLES branches in New Zealand, from two of Ambrose's sisters, Jane and Martha. Ambrose was the only son of John and Fanny so the name EYLES died with him (if this is him?) I will order the marriage record and cross my fingers that the parents are recorded

You have been very helpful 

Robyn

[sparrett]

I will type the details.

Meantime, here is the death of the daughter.  she had a good long span

BARTLEMAN Elizth Croonie
Father Eyles Ambrose
Mother Elizth Croome  RUDDLE
Death  CANTBURY
Age 94
Year 1944
Reg  4610


Sue

[enzfan]

Hi Sue

Unfortunately none of the kids names have obvious 'family' names.

Is Woolwich in Australia or England and is Cantbury - Canterbury - Australia, New Zealand, England?

Robyn

[sparrett]

Woolwich is in England and was in County of Kent.

Canturbury is a suburb of Melbourne, where GEO BARTLEMAN may lived in later years I think.
You can see his rather quaintly worded will digitised here. (download is slow!!)

 http://210.8.122.120/indexes/index_search.asp?searchid=54

Here is the death



BARTLEMAN Geo Joshua
Father Bartleman George
Mother Emma Rebecca Edgehill  COLES
Place MELB S
Age 76
Year 1922
Reg  6284
Event: D


Here is his arrival in Australia

The Bartlemans arrived Dec 1854 per 'Champion of the Seas'
They were unassisted immigrants from a British port.


BARTLEMAN
INFANT WITH   B 082 008
EMMA Aged 30   
GEOAged 9   
GEO Aged   40      

[sparrett]

Bartleman. Father George Joshua. Mother Elizabeth Eyles

George 1878 Reg 22304X

Florence 1879 Reg 24990 at Plea.

Gwenillian 1881 Reg 18496  at Plea.

Ruth Evelyn 1883 Reg 12720 at Staw.

Aubrey Ernest 1885 Reg 6220 at Staw
.
Reginald Ambrose 1886 Reg 29894 at Staw.
 
Harold Coles 1891 Reg  17353 at Stawell
 
Esther Amy 1893 Reg 26697 at Stawell

George 1899 Reg 22304 at Stawell


Sue
PS By his death, George born 1878 had the second given name Herbert which does not show on birth.

[alison2763]

Hello,
The Ambrose who died in 1850  :
Ambrose EYLES d 1850 aged 27 -no parents listed # 28272  Church of England  St Peters Melbourne  Fiche : 413
Elizabeth remarried:
Elizabeth Croome EYLES married  Frances William NALDER 1852 #  21667 Church of England  St Marks Collingwood  Fiche: 332
Their children: { mothers name given on 5 of the children's births- Elizabeth Croome RUDDLE}
1. Mary Flor b 1853 Merri Creek # 20834  C of E St Mark's Collingwood Fiche: 327
2. Francis William b 1855 Box Forrest # 438
3. John Croome b 1857 Pleasant Creek # 16493 d 1858 aged 1 Pleasant Creek # 8538
4. Maria b 1860 Pleasant Creek # 4338
5. Ada Emily b 1862 Pleasant Creek # 16936
7. Alice b 1864 Pleasant Creek # 17518
another entry
Alice b 1864 Pleasant Creek # 24040

If you want me to look further down this line let me know  

The only connection I can find with the RUDDLE name - and I don't know if or how they fit with the EYLES/CROOMES

Mary Croome RUDDLE b 1862 Kyneton -  George RUDDLE and  Rachael GILMORE # 15262
John Croome RUDDLE b 1867 Kynton- parents as above # 2822

Elizabeth RUDDLE d 1897 aged 81 { b Wiltshire} -  Charles CROOME and  Sarah COOK # 5266

regards
Alison

[alison2763]

Found Elizabeth's death :
Elizabeth Croome NALDER d 1917 aged 92 { b 1825} Stawell-  William RUDDLE and Elizabeth CROOME  # 6620

So if this is the Elizabeth that was married to Ambrose, why didn't she marry as RUDDLE both times 

I had a 3X great grandmother who did the same thing and I have never been able to find the father named on her DC. She always went by her mother's name Illegitimate I think as I have never been able to find a marriage for her parents and her mother went on to marry someone else and have more children ....

Alice NALDER d 1920 aged 56 Stawell- Fran Wm NALDER and Elizth Croome RUDDLE # 16447

Elizabeth Croonie BARTLEMAN d 1944 aged 94 Canterbury-  Ambrose EYLES  and Elizabeth Croome RUDDLE # 4610
Her children :
Aubrey Ernest BARTLEMAN d 1950 aged 65 Hawthorn E # 4938
Esther Amy BARTLEMAN d 1952 aged 59 Mont Albert # 5074
Geo Herbert BARTLEMAN d 1952 aged 74 Mont Park # 6248
Ruth Evelyn BARTLEMAN d 1979 aged 96 Brighton # 28766
Gwenillian LABY d 1966 aged 88 Malvern # 27427

regards
Alison

[alison2763]

Eyles / Bartleman wedding announcement
   
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0dgt/

Eyles/ Nalder wedding announcement

http://www.rootschat.com/links/0dgu/

Regards
Alison

[sparrett]

 ELIZABETH C NALDER, widow of Stawell, left a will which, like the other I have mentioned is digitised and can be read at the link I have given.

There is an interesting codicil to it also .

Her daughter and son-in-law BARTLEMAN are mentioned a lot.

Sue

ADDING  None of this really brings us any closer to resolving your uncertainty about the AMBROSE's parents