Ambrose EYLES - Collingwood

[enzfan]

Hi

I am trying to find out anything I can with regards to Ambrose Eyles who arrived in Australia in 1849 and died in Collingwood, Melbourne the following year.

I have searched TROVE and have found three items - his arrival, his widow's subsequent marriage and his daughter's marriage

I am keen to find out who his parents were as I suspect that Ambrose is a missing ancestor of mine

Thanks
Robyn

[CaroleW]

You say he arrived in Australia in 1849 - where from?

How old was he when he died as that helps with a birthyear

If he died in 1850 - presumably his wife and daughter also arrived with him in 1849 so what were their names/birthyears?

There is christening entry in 1823 for an Ambrose Eyles in Melksham Wiltshire whose parents were John & Fanny

Freebmd has an 1848 marriage in Devon of an Ambrose Eyles and Elizabeth Croome Ruddle

[enzfan]

Hi

Sorry for lack of info

The Ambrose Eyles from Melksham is definitely mine.

I am hoping that I can connect him to that 1848 marriage and the subsequent departure to Australia. Ambrose was 27 when he died so the dates all line up. In the 1841 census an Ambrose Eyles was living in Devon and training to be a druggist. Elizabeth Ruddle was a Female Servant in the same house

Ambrose and wife, Elizabeth Croome Ruddle, arrived on the John Munn September 1849. Departed from London and Pymouth and arrived Adelaide. According to an Ancestry Tree the daughter was born in 1850 in Australia

Robyn

[CaroleW]

From the IGI

ELIZABETH CROOME RUDDLE  Christening:  30 DEC 1825   Potterne, Wiltshire,    Father:  WILLIAM RUDDLE  Mother:  ELIZA 

[CaroleW]

That 1841 shows head of household as John Crooms - I don't think that's a coincidence do you?

Elizabeth is shown as not born in county (ie Devon  as are John Crooms and Ambrose Eyles which ties in with Wiltshire as their birthplace

IGI

WILLIAM RUDDLE    Spouse:  ELIZABETH CROOME     Marriage:  26 JUL 1821   Bishops Cannings, Wiltshire 

[enzfan]

Hi

Thanks for that. Just need to make link of Ambrose from Melksham to Ambrose in Devon.

Would an 1850 Victorian death record show parents, do you know?

Robyn

[CaroleW]

Hi

Would an 1850 Victorian death record show parents, do you know

I honestly don't know but on balance - I doubt it.

I have just used http://www.nla.gov.au/collect/genealogy/bdm/ which shows one match for an Ambrose Eyles death in 1850

However - that was just using his name and year of death

If I then put in a father name of John and a mothers name/maiden name of Fanny Thompson (see IGI marriage)  it shows no match

[enzfan]

Hi

Thanks again for your help. Much appreciated 

Will have to try the marriage record but again not sure what would be included

Robyn

[sparrett]

This is the death index registration.
If the parents were known, I believe thay would have been listed.
However we have among our chat group those who are very knowledgeable about such records, and certainly someone will have more to conribute

EYLES Ambrose
Father-
Mother-
Age 27
 Place COLLINGWOOD
Year 1850
Reg  28272
Denomination Church of England
Parish St Peters, Melbourne
Fiche 413


Here is the marriage of the daughter

EYLES Elizabeth Croome
To BARTLEMAN George Joshua (born Woolwich)
Birth Place (of bride)  AT SEA
Year 1877
Reg  197

Her birth registration

EYLES Elizabeth Croome
Father Ambrose
Mother Croome ELIZABETH
Place COLLINGWOOD
Year 1850
Reg  26496
Denomination Church of England
Parish St Peters, Melbourne
Fiche 386

There were a number of children to the couple and I will list their names in case there is an ancestoral reference you may recognise to help your inquiry.

George
Florence
Gwenillian
Ruth Evelyn
Aubrey Ernest
Reginald Ambrose
Esther Amy
George
Harold Coles.

The details of these can be given if of interest.

Sue