Pages: [1] 2 3

Author Topic: Completed How do I find a sailing ship possibly sunk  (Read 6648 times)

Offline bcorcoran

  • RootsChat Extra
  • **
  • Posts: 18
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Completed How do I find a sailing ship possibly sunk
« on: Friday 27 May 11 21:57 BST (UK) »
The story of my gg grandfather is that his ship sunk because of overloading. It sank leaving a UK port.  His name John Cole b c1834. I have found a death for a John Cole at sea 1876 on the vessel 'Aid' How do I findout about about this ship 'Aid'? Thanks Barbara
Warwickshire, Durham, Staffordshire, Derbyshire

Offline groom

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 21,147
  • Me aged 3. Tidied up thanks to Wiggy.
    • View Profile
Re: How do I find a ship possibly sunk
« Reply #1 on: Friday 27 May 11 23:26 BST (UK) »
Hi welcome to Rootschat

It doesn't look as if the ship sunk in 1876

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_shipwrecks_in_1876

You might need to send for the certificate and see what is given as the cause of death. It could just be a family story and you find that he either had an accident or died from natural causes on board the ship.

Jan
Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Offline stanmapstone

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 25,798
    • View Profile
Re: How do I find a ship possibly sunk
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 28 May 11 08:34 BST (UK) »
I don't know where the list on Wikipedia comes from, but if you search 'Shipping Disasters' in "The Times" there are a number of ships listed there not on the Wikipedia list. I also think there would be more than ten ships lost world wide in the whole of 1876  :).
What is the source for your finding the death and the name of the ship?
Stan
Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Offline bcorcoran

  • RootsChat Extra
  • **
  • Posts: 18
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: How do I find a ship possibly sunk
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 28 May 11 09:29 BST (UK) »
I found the information on findmypast overseas deaths. its the nearest I have found to a John Cole death. he would have died between 1871 and 1881.
Thanks
Warwickshire, Durham, Staffordshire, Derbyshire

Offline stanmapstone

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 25,798
    • View Profile
Re: How do I find a ship possibly sunk
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 28 May 11 11:55 BST (UK) »
As you can appreciate trying to find a ship named "Aid" in the newspapers of the time is not easy  :)

Stan
Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Offline bcorcoran

  • RootsChat Extra
  • **
  • Posts: 18
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: How do I find a ship possibly sunk
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 28 May 11 12:41 BST (UK) »
I know Stan, I'm wondering whether 'Aid' is the correct name. I have sent away for the death certificate. All I know is that his family were living in South Shields.

He is my ggreat grandfather my ggreat grandmother Agnes, (orr). this was her second marriage, first husband, another mariner, fell over board, she didn't have a lot of luck.
Barbara
Warwickshire, Durham, Staffordshire, Derbyshire

Offline groom

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 21,147
  • Me aged 3. Tidied up thanks to Wiggy.
    • View Profile
Re: How do I find a ship possibly sunk
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 28 May 11 13:44 BST (UK) »
If they were in South Shields, I wonder if he was a fisherman and it was a fishing boat? Let us know when the certificate arrives.

Jan
Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Offline Plummiegirl

  • RootsChat Aristocrat
  • ******
  • Posts: 1,620
  • Me, Dad, Granddad & G/gran
    • View Profile
Re: How do I find a ship possibly sunk
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 28 May 11 19:56 BST (UK) »
Do not all ships/boats 'lost at sea' have to be registered with Lloyds of London?

Lloyds of London have a register of all ships lost, do not know if it is online or if public access is available.
Fleming (Bristol) Fowler/Brain (Battersea/Bristol)    Simpson (Fulham/Clapham)  Harrison (W.London, Fulham, Clapham)  Earl & Butler  (Dublin,New Ross: Ireland)  Humphrey (All over mainly London) Hill (Reigate, Bletchingly, Redhill: Surrey)
Sell (Herts/Essex/W. London)

Offline bcorcoran

  • RootsChat Extra
  • **
  • Posts: 18
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: How do I find a ship possibly sunk
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 04 June 11 09:52 BST (UK) »
The certificate has arrived and it is my ggreat grandfather I am sure. under 'date of death' Ship missing since 18.11.1875. so back to my quest, how do I find out about a ship that sunk. looking for a ship called 'Aid' throws up aid ships! The ship was almost certainly ' home trade'.
Barbara
PS I have just found out that 'Aid' was a 2 mast sailing ship.
Warwickshire, Durham, Staffordshire, Derbyshire
Pages: [1] 2 3