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Re: Shoreditch address look up please
« Reply #27 on: Monday 30 May 11 19:14 BST (UK) »
Hello Ken

Iv'e no wish to be boring
I need convincing with hard facts on this lady named Margaret Amanda Pinchion....i'm not disputing that she is the mother of William George "Besley" and that Thomas "Besley" is the father........

If i'm reading right
The census of 1881 states Southwark as her place of birth
The census of 1891 states Bow as her place of birth
The census of 1901 states Dalston as her place of birth

Yet Margaret Amanda Pinchion was born Dorking, Surrey which I don't dispute as I see no other candidate.

The 1861 census with Margaret aged 11 and the 1871 census showing a lady named Minni aged 21 (appears to be the same person although she could be a family member taken in?) gives me further reason to cast doubt....

1881 census
9 Ada Street, South Hackney, Hackney, Middx
Thomas Emmerton....head..34...safe maker.....Clerkenwell
Margaret........".........wife....32...fur sewer........Southwark, Surrey
William Bearsley....stepson.12..........................Hoxton, Middx
Amanda Emmerton..daur......7.............................."
Mary A. Emmerton...daur......5...........................Hackney
Thomas Emmerton....son......2...........................Hackney
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To put my doubt to bed

Thomas George Emmerton was born Sep qtr 1878 Hackney and appears to be Thomas Emmerton aged 2 in the 1881 census above, hopefully there is someone who can see the detail of that birth to ensure that the mother's maiden name is this lady born Dorking with birth places such as Southwark, Bow & Dalston....then I can move on  :)

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Bryant

Researching names BRYANT (Camberwell), PASTERFIELD (Essex and all), RAY (Holborn/Islington areas back to Brentford), POWELL (Glouc & beyond?)
Fletcher (Glouc into Warwickshie into Lancs?), BUCKLEY (Chatham area), Watson (Chatham area).


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Re: Shoreditch address look up please
« Reply #28 on: Monday 30 May 11 19:32 BST (UK) »
From the LMA;

Born May 21 1878, bap. March 19, 1880 at St. Barnabas Homerton.  Thomas George, son of Thomas and Margaret of 26 Crozier Terrace.  Father a labourer.
East London:
Happe/Hoppe (St. Georges in the East)
Stanley (middle name Thurston)
Rondeau (Spitalfields and Salford)
Jones (Bishopsgate - Thomas, Ostrich Feather Manufacturer)
Wood (London City)
McDermott (Londonderry and Stepney)
Upcraft (Bethnal Green)
Chidgey (Shoredtich)
Grim (Bethnal Green)
Row (Mast makers in Wapping)
Spurden (Stepney and Pancras)
Glibbery (Bishopsgate)

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« Reply #29 on: Monday 30 May 11 19:48 BST (UK) »
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East London:
Happe/Hoppe (St. Georges in the East)
Stanley (middle name Thurston)
Rondeau (Spitalfields and Salford)
Jones (Bishopsgate - Thomas, Ostrich Feather Manufacturer)
Wood (London City)
McDermott (Londonderry and Stepney)
Upcraft (Bethnal Green)
Chidgey (Shoredtich)
Grim (Bethnal Green)
Row (Mast makers in Wapping)
Spurden (Stepney and Pancras)
Glibbery (Bishopsgate)

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Re: Shoreditch address look up please
« Reply #30 on: Tuesday 31 May 11 01:28 BST (UK) »
Hi Bryant.
                I don't know why she has all these different P o B but I do believe she is the right one. She married T Besley in 1867 and had William George in 1868. It looks like Thomas Besly( Beasley/Beazley) died in 1872 age 26 ( I've sent for the death cert), and by 1881 she was married? ( cannot find details ) to Thomas Emmerton. In 1901 she is now a widow and she is living with three of her children that are on the 1891 census, in the same house as William George Beasley ( 32 Dove Row Shoreditch  ) William later moved to no 49 as his family grew. I would like to point out that although she kept altering her PoB she always showed the same occ ( Fur Sewer )
        She also played about with her name,she was Amanda in 1868, Margaret in 81/91,then Amanda in 1901 when she was back on her own ( widowed ) you can see it is her, as she has the three youngest children from the 1891 census with her. Hope this clarifies it a bit.
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« Reply #31 on: Tuesday 31 May 11 11:30 BST (UK) »
Ken, why not put it to bed once and for all by contacting the Ancestry member who made those corrections / links to Amanda - Richardbazeley ......

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« Reply #32 on: Tuesday 31 May 11 17:06 BST (UK) »
Hello Mort, how would I go about contacting him,I'm with FindMyPast.Does Ancestry have a pay as you go section?
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« Reply #33 on: Tuesday 31 May 11 17:10 BST (UK) »
As an Ancestry member, I could send him a PM, with a link to this thread if you like?

Or you could try the Free Trial (make sure you cancel before the 14 days are up tho)

http://landing.ancestry.co.uk/popularmedia/hs1.aspx?landingpage=39719&o_iid=39719&o_lid=39719

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« Reply #34 on: Tuesday 31 May 11 17:59 BST (UK) »
PM'ed him anyway  :D

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« Reply #35 on: Tuesday 31 May 11 19:16 BST (UK) »
Thanks Mort, I will keep you informed as to what happens.

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