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Shoreditch address look up please
« on: Friday 27 May 11 11:55 BST (UK) »
I have the birth cert for William George Besley( hope it should be Beasley) in 1868,father Thomas, mother Amanda, address 46 Huntingdon st Hoxton.I have tried 71 and 81 census's but family seems to have disappeared. Could someone please check the address for me in the 71 census to see who lives there. Thanks a lot.
                                 Ken.
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Re: Shoreditch address look up please
« Reply #1 on: Friday 27 May 11 13:30 BST (UK) »
Theres a Henry Horne 48 Sarah 28 wife.2 children a Harris,Dixon and Jullion.
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Re: Shoreditch address look up please
« Reply #2 on: Friday 27 May 11 13:37 BST (UK) »
Its a start ! (Apologies if you already have this detail)

Marriages Dec 1867 
 
BARTON  Elizabeth    Bethnal Green  1c 613   
BEASLEY  Thomas     Bethnal Green  1c 613   
FERNE  Edward     Bethnal Green  1c 613   
Pinchion  Amanda     Bethnal Green  1c 613   


Married 25 Nov, 1867 at St James the Great, Bethnal Green.

Thomas (bachelor) of full age, marked X: Father Edward - a Brickmaker
Amanda (Spinster) 18, marked X:Father George - a Labourer

both 'of Bethnal Green'

Witnesses - William Webb & Sarah Ann Pinchion (both 'X'ed' signature)


This looks like her Birth Index entry - no wonder she couldnt be found in Middx!

Margaret Amanda Pinchion
Registration - 4Q of 1849
Registration district of Guildford (Surrey)
Volume 4
Page 177 


A likely match in 1861 was born Surrey, Shere & has a Father John. G - the family are in Writtle Essex - altho there is a sibling born in Hoxton, so maybe a link.

RG9/Piece: 1080 Folio: 22 Page: 13

Looking back at the 1851 - HO107/Piece: 1502 Folio: 286 Page: 25 - in Islington, the fathers middle name was George .... and someone else has researched the name:-

Margaret Emmerton rather than Margt Pinchion
Second Married name
Submitted by  richardbazeley on 28/10/2007

Margaret Beasley rather than Margt Pinchion
First Married name
Submitted by  richardbazeley on 28/10/2007



cant find an Emmerton marriage in FreeBMD  :(

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Re: Shoreditch address look up please
« Reply #3 on: Friday 27 May 11 14:18 BST (UK) »
Got 'em  :)

1881 census of South Hackney - RG11/Piece: 312 Folio: 7 Page: 5  @ 9, Ada Street
 
Thomas Emmerton 34 Head of Household born Clerkenwell: a Safe Maker
Margaret Emmerton 32 Wife born Surrey, ?Southwark?: a Fur Sewer
William Bearsley (sic) 12 stepson born Hoxton
Amanda Emmerton 7 dau ditto
Mary A. Emmerton 5 dau Hackney
Thomas Emmerton 2 son Hackney



but still cant find them in 1871  :(


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Re: Shoreditch address look up please
« Reply #4 on: Friday 27 May 11 22:02 BST (UK) »
i've had a couple of my ancesters disappearing in that area for the 1871/1881 census... 1881 it was mis-spelt so was lucky to pick that one up....
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Re: Shoreditch address look up please
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 28 May 11 11:47 BST (UK) »
Thanks Isebelruss,they must have moved on.

Thanks Mort29,you are a star!I haven't got any of the info you've given me. My starting point was William George's marriage in 1895,he was my Grandfather and I have his origanal marriage cert. Without knowing it, I had gone back on the wrong line of Beasley's but you have put me back on track. On his marriage cert it shows his father as Thomas which is correct, His occupation is down as Iron safe maker,which was William's stepfathers occupation and I imagine William said that as he wouldn't have known his real father's occ, I have found Amanda Emmerton in the 1901 census widowed with three more of her children, I have William in the 1901 but couldn't find him in the 1891.She seemed to have prefered Amanda to Margaret,first marriage she was Amanda,second Marriage she was Margaret, then when widowed went back to Amanda again.
Funny lot our ancestors,weren't they?
You have given me Thomas's father now (Edward) so hopefully I will find him in the 51 census to get me back even further. Thanks once again Mort,really helped me out.
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Re: Shoreditch address look up please
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 28 May 11 12:26 BST (UK) »
Pleasure Ken - you might want to try & get in touch with the Ancestry ID who made those notes (richardbazeley in 2007) ?


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She seemed to have prefered Amanda to Margaret,first marriage she was Amanda,second Marriage she was Margaret, then when widowed went back to Amanda again.


did you find her second marriage to Mr Emmerton then?

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Re: Shoreditch address look up please
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 28 May 11 12:48 BST (UK) »
Hi Mort.
           No,couldn't find the marriage at all,I went by the 81 census ( Margaret) and 1901 Amanda. perhaps they weren't married!
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« Reply #8 on: Saturday 28 May 11 12:54 BST (UK) »
William is with the Emmertons in 1891 - RG12/Piece: 204 Folio 77 Page 63, using Emmerton rather than Beasley.

The Ancestry site has transcribed them as Emmerson, but the same ID (RichardBazeley) corrected it in 2009.