He Came From Where?

[nickgc]

If what Margie found is correct, he is found in Shipley with parents James and Mary and several siblings in the 1881 UK census.  And yes, the address is 15 Waverly Street.  That should give you some options since it would seem likely that a person that age would have emigrated with his family.

Also, check out Castle Garden site.  Look for surname Myers arriving on ship Ohio 1881 (is December 24, 1881).   Father and Joseph aren't shown, but mother Mary and most (if not all) other kids are.

Modified:  Found James and Mary (they had total of 15 kids, some born in US) in 1900 and 1910 Philadelphia census.  In 1900 name is misspelled "Myres".

Nick

[R. Joshua Myers]

Wow! Margie, I found conflicting statements about his origin (Pennsylvania, England), and conflicting statements about when he came to America (at the age of 12, 17). Frankly, he seems dishonest! We know he came from England and we know he was living with his parents at Shipley when he was 14 years old. I have learned to discount what he says in the U.S. censuses. Margie, I will send you my e-mail in a personal message after I post this, if I can figure out how to do it here. 1867- that's when he arrived in America! That's him! Only one mistake in your info, Shawmont Avenue. Everybody in Philly knows that street. Your source misspelled it. Yeah, I've seen the 1881 English census. That's the family! Ohio 1881? Joseph was here already. The father must've come with him on Ohio 1867. Yeah, that's the family. We had them figured at a total of 12 kids. That poor woman! Oh, you guys have really been outstanding! Margie, Nick, thank you so very much.  Josh

[nickgc]

1867- that's when he arrived in America!

No, he was born in 1867; he probably arrived in 1881 with his dad, some months before his mother and siblings arrived.  Arrival in 1881 and no 1890 census available means most information will be unavailable for this family for almost 20 years (1881-1900).  You could try to identify all of his siblings and when and where they married.  Might also look at Philadelphia city directories if you can get them at the library (or online) for this time period.

Nick

[nanapop]

R. Josh....... I think you already knew all the info I spent a few hours trying to locate.  Your last post told me that.  Why do people do that???

[R. Joshua Myers]

You're right! I have him born in 1867 in the 1881 English census. I have him born in 1870 also, from an American census, which I distrusted. I'll tell you why people do that to you. Because they're hit with too much information too fast and they can't process it all. Your job is not just to help people with the facts, but to help them to sort the facts out. They are so close to their study, they lack your more objective perspective on things. When I found the family in Shipley, I should have purged my notes of all 1870 birthdates. You're right. I haven't done a familysearch since I learned the names and birth dates of his siblings because I didn't know then that they came to America. As for the obviousness of being brought by his family, that was counterbalanced by the size of his family. The siblings are obviously the way to go. He's all accounted for now in England, which is what this thread was all about. Thanks for your help and your patience.  Josh

[dollylee]

I'll tell you why people do that to you. Because they're hit with too much information too fast and they can't process it all. Your job is not just to help people with the facts, but to help them to sort the facts out. They are so close to their study, they lack your more objective perspective on things.

As one of, I am sure many other rootchat members who have spent hours looking for information on your behalf I find the above quote extremely rude.

A quick look through the 54 posts you have made since joining Rootschat FIVE days ago shows your cavalier approach.  You can hardly comment on receiving too much information too quickly to be able to process it when you have zipped through many branches of your family back several generations in a matter of five days.  The onus is squarely upon you to get facts into perspective before you ask volunteer researchers to search on your behalf.

It is NOT up to you to tell us how to do our "job" in helping you.   How dare you?

dollylee

[John_Paul]

I'm just getting used to this site. Joseph Myers was my grandfather, and I new him. After Shawmont Ave, he moved to Lemonte St, also in Phila. PA. That's where I knew him from. He had a big chicken coop, with loads of chickens. Check out my site here...,"Myers Family Tree"

JP