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Re: Latter Day Saints genealogy
« Reply #54 on: Wednesday 08 June 11 18:48 BST (UK) »
My question is in response to YOUR OWN  reply No.42 above.
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Re: Latter Day Saints genealogy
« Reply #55 on: Wednesday 08 June 11 18:58 BST (UK) »
Do you mean this post  ???

I think some of my relatives and ancestors will be turning in their graves at the thought of being baptised into the LDS church or for that matter any church. My objection is that the person being baptised has no say in the matter.

Yes they do  :)

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By performing proxy baptisms in behalf of those who have died, Church members offer these blessings to deceased ancestors. These individuals in the next life can then choose to accept or decline what has been done in their behalf.

http://mormon.org/faq/#Baptism



I have always assumed that they make their wishes known to a Higher Authority in the next world - not to the earthbound living.  ;)
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Re: Latter Day Saints genealogy
« Reply #56 on: Wednesday 08 June 11 19:05 BST (UK) »
Thanks for the enlightenment, it is now very clear to me. :)
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Re: Latter Day Saints genealogy
« Reply #57 on: Friday 10 June 11 05:30 BST (UK) »
Most of us Mormons do it for the pleasure of finding our roots not to submit into the archives. My own sister's dates in the IGI are wrong as are my father's (both deceased). As for Proxy baptisms I myself have never done any though I know many who have and they all say they have "felt" the people they are doing it for around them and are very happy.

Most of the records submitted are from personal family histories and data sent by members of the church who have collected it whether it is correct or not depends on the collector (or submitting person as stated before). Alot of times even families get it wrong as I found out. With my father and sister but hey we can moan as much as we like at least someone is trying to find their family for what ever reason if it helps someone else who is searching its a small price to pay.
At least that is my opinion not that its worth anything to anyone else


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Re: Latter Day Saints genealogy
« Reply #58 on: Friday 10 June 11 06:34 BST (UK) »
I think some of my relatives and ancestors will be turning in their graves at the thought of being baptised into the LDS church or for that matter any church. My objection is that the person being baptised has no say in the matter, but then I suppose these feelings are left overs from my family's baptist background of adult baptism.

You seem to totally misunderstand the proxy baptisms carried out by the LDS.
Part of the beliefs of the LDS is "life" continues after death of the physical body.
They believe that the dead are capable of making the rational decision of accepting or rejecting the proxy baptism offered on their behalf.

If the LDS are correct in their beliefs then your ancestors are in the best place to make an informed decision on the subject.
If the LDS (and other faiths) are wrong and there is no "life" after death then it makes no difference.
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Re: Latter Day Saints genealogy
« Reply #59 on: Friday 10 June 11 12:59 BST (UK) »
No Guy, the purpose of the LDS proxy baptisms was very clear to me. I am firmly of the persuasion that all faiths believing in life after death are wrong and therefore it makes no difference.
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Re: Latter Day Saints genealogy
« Reply #60 on: Friday 10 June 11 13:11 BST (UK) »
They believe that the dead are capable of making the rational decision of accepting or rejecting the proxy baptism offered on their behalf.

Do they believe that the dead ever reject their proxy baptisms?


If the LDS are correct in their beliefs then your ancestors are in the best place to make an informed decision on the subject.

But how can dead babies and children, for example, make an informed descision?

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Re: Latter Day Saints genealogy
« Reply #61 on: Friday 10 June 11 13:21 BST (UK) »
Most of us Mormons do it for the pleasure of finding our roots not to submit into the archives. wrong as I found out. With my father and sister but hey we can moan as much as we like at least someone is trying to find their family for what ever reason if it helps someone else who is searching its a small price to pay.
At least that is my opinion not that its worth anything to anyone else
If it helps others then it is certainly valuable, regardless of whether or not you are a believer; thanks lexxbabe
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Re: Latter Day Saints genealogy
« Reply #62 on: Friday 10 June 11 13:32 BST (UK) »
LOL I know my granny would fight them tooth and nail in any possible after life!  :o 

A confirmed atheist with communist tendencies married to a "blacked" Red Clydesider; both of whom were cremated, my grandfather long before cremation was accepted way of processing dead bodies!  :P   Both would be horrified at the thought of even "going to heaven".  ;D
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