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Re: Latter Day Saints genealogy
« Reply #45 on: Friday 03 June 11 15:38 BST (UK) »
I think some of my relatives and ancestors will be turning in their graves at the thought of being baptised into the LDS church or for that matter any church. My objection is that the person being baptised has no say in the matter.

Yes they do  :)

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By performing proxy baptisms in behalf of those who have died, Church members offer these blessings to deceased ancestors. These individuals in the next life can then choose to accept or decline what has been done in their behalf.

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Question of faith v logic |I suppose?
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Re: Latter Day Saints genealogy
« Reply #46 on: Saturday 04 June 11 07:08 BST (UK) »
I think some of my relatives and ancestors will be turning in their graves at the thought of being baptised into the LDS church or for that matter any church. My objection is that the person being baptised has no say in the matter.

Yes they do  :)

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By performing proxy baptisms in behalf of those who have died, Church members offer these blessings to deceased ancestors. These individuals in the next life can then choose to accept or decline what has been done in their behalf.

http://mormon.org/faq/#Baptism

Question of faith v logic |I suppose?

Um, a bit like the small print when the box is already ticked for you, and you are automatically 'in' and signed up for something. Irritatingly you then have to make the effort to tick the 'opt out' box. 

I wonder if they keep records of those departed souls who refuse their baptism?

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Re: Latter Day Saints genealogy
« Reply #47 on: Monday 06 June 11 21:39 BST (UK) »
I have seen people born in UK, marry in UK, then go to the US, but come back to the UK to give birth to every child (as many as 10 times!) and then their body is brought back for them to be buried in their local parish church.

I've seen similar trees on the LDS site and also one on Ancestry. I contacted the lady who had the Ancestry tree to let her know she was 'mistaken', but received a really curt reply  ??? I got the impression that she didn't care if she had compiled a bogus tree because she was more interested in appearing to have 'found' many thousands of ancestors - few of whom were probably hers in reality. Sort of a genealogical version of never mind the quality feel the width.
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Re: Latter Day Saints genealogy
« Reply #48 on: Tuesday 07 June 11 10:17 BST (UK) »
Ruskie, I doubt it very much! Kate, I wonder if they get a sort of bonus based on the number of ancestors they find?
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Re: Latter Day Saints genealogy
« Reply #49 on: Tuesday 07 June 11 10:31 BST (UK) »
Ruskie, I doubt it very much! Kate, I wonder if they get a sort of bonus based on the number of ancestors they find?

Maybe they do - a bit like divine Green Shield stamps  ;D
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Re: Latter Day Saints genealogy
« Reply #50 on: Wednesday 08 June 11 13:23 BST (UK) »
I just wish that some of them would be more honest about why they do it.  I sat next to a few people at WDYTYA live a couple of years ago, the lady from the LDS was coming up with all sorts of weird and wonderful reasons and trying to get away from the subject of retrospective baptism.  I would have a bit more respect for them if they just came out with the real reason.
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Re: Latter Day Saints genealogy
« Reply #51 on: Wednesday 08 June 11 18:14 BST (UK) »
I just wish that some of them would be more honest about why they do it.  I sat next to a few people at WDYTYA live a couple of years ago, the lady from the LDS was coming up with all sorts of weird and wonderful reasons and trying to get away from the subject of retrospective baptism.  I would have a bit more respect for them if they just came out with the real reason.

Probably because when the reasons behind their wish to transcribe various records surfaced a while ago  it saw several where they had been welcomed before suddenly closed to them.

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Re: Latter Day Saints genealogy
« Reply #52 on: Wednesday 08 June 11 18:42 BST (UK) »
I would still like to know how the deceased baptismal candidates communicate their agreement or otherwise to the living LDS members?
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Re: Latter Day Saints genealogy
« Reply #53 on: Wednesday 08 June 11 18:44 BST (UK) »
Probably because when the reasons behind their wish to transcribe various records surfaced a while ago  it saw several where they had been welcomed before suddenly closed to them.

Silly really, because if the Anglican Church/other Christian denominations are right, the people they are arguing about are already in Heaven (or t'other place), so what difference does it make?  ;D

I would still like to know how the deceased baptismal candidates communicate their agreement or otherwise to the living LDS members?

Why would they need to?
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