John O'DONNELL Information

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Elvina’s Mother:

Julia Mary Bollom died 1888, Ballarat, age 64, Reg#8311.
Parent listed as Cakerson.
Buried at the Ballarat New Cemetery, on 10 July 1888, Wesylan “C” Section 4, Grave 7.  Last residence was Seymour Street, Ballarat.


Elvina’s brother and sister:

George William Bollom born 1859, Geelong, Reg#8016.
Parents listed as George Bollom and Julia Mary Berry.

George William Bollom 1st married 1882, Reg#5895, Margaret Davies
George William Bollom 2nd married 1913, Reg#2093, Alice Julia Dawson.

George William Bollom died 1935, Menniyan, age 76, Reg#18485.
Parents listed as George Bollom and Julia Mary Catterson.


Maria Louisa Bollom born 1861, Geelong, Reg#14214.
Parents listed as George Bollom and Julia Mary Catterson.

Maria Louisa Bollom married 1882, Reg#5472, George Kibby.

Marie Louise Kibby died 1933, Hawthorn, age 72, Reg#4284.
Parents listed as George Bollon and Julia Mary Catterson.

[majm]

Umm.... perhaps another surname for Elvina

1894 birth Ada May Odonnell
Father Jerald Odonnell
Mother Alice Watkins
at Brighton, Victoria in 1894
Rego No.  1202

Cheers,  JM

[majm]

    

It should be possible to tell from this Victorian marriage if Ada's father was still alive when she married
In 1918 Ada Odonnell  and Robert Wm Ware  Registration Number: 5120 .... Keep that ref number handy as it saves you around $1 if you decide to download an image of that m.c. online

Cheers,  JM

[majm]

Around ten year samples only, not a thorough search

1931 Ada and William Robert Ware both at 220 Somerville Rd Footscray North, she h.d. he labourer.

1942 Same couple at 57 Kingsville St Footscray North, same occupations

1954 Same couple, at 334 Beaconsfield Parade Albert Park, she guest house proprietoress, he labourer

Cheers,  JM

[harkel25]

Greetings,

The Bollom's certainly lived interesting lives.  Elvina seems to have wed on multiple occassions and was quite happy to incorporate John O'Donnell's surname into the name of a daughter that she allegedly had with Henry Dawson. Furthermore, George William Bollom's second marriage was to his niece, Alica Julia Dawson. (I actually have a photograph of the two taken on their wedding day.).  I wonder how scandalous such undertakings were considered to have been back then.

I will see if I can find out when John O'Donnell died, approximately. The hardest bit will be finding out where, I imagine.

Warm wishes,
Harkel25.

[majm]

Some Forbidden marriages as per this online index

http://www.genetic-genealogy.co.uk/Toc115570145.html

You would need to really consider carefully if this chap her lawful uncle (ie a brother as per b.c. registrations of either of her lawful parents as noted on her b.c.) and also at the time of their marriage was he actually her lawful uncle (as opposed to her biological uncle).... 

Also was he perhaps at the time of that marriage, only the widower or divorced former husband of her aunt, (ie uncle in law so to write) presuming the aunt was a sibling to one of her parents...

Oh so very complicated.... 

Cheers,  JM

[harkel25]

Hi,

It appears that several members of the Bollom family were married more than once. I note that Julia Mary Catterson is also listed as Julia Mary Berry on occassion, so I expect that she was married more than once, as well. 

I have been told by an elderly family member that she believes John O'Donnell passed away in Kalgoorlie prior to 1925; and that he is possibly buried there. She has heard over the years that John -or 'Joe' as she knew him as- died of pneumonia. There is some speculation that he died a drunk; but that is all the information that I could muster.  The names of his parents are unknown by my relative, but she once heard a rumour that he was raised in an orphanage that burned down.

Warm regards,
harkel25

[majm]

I think this would be your John O'Donnell  (editing to add, your elderly family member's recollections working well, so perhaps the orphanage line is worth following up too)...

http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/1842186  2 September 1922 The Argus

O'DONNELL -On the 29th August 1922 at St Johns Hospital Kalgoorlie WA, of pneumonia J O Donnell musician
Deeply regretted.   (Inserted bv the Musicians Union of Australia Victoria district)

RChat's Western Australia Resources Board
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,369921.0.html

Cheers, JM

[~MERLIN~]

There are Probate/Will files for that death in WA registered at PROV:

http://210.8.122.120/indexes/index_search.asp?searchid=54