jane black 1900+cc

[cathayb]

hi i wonder if any one could help me again.a friend is desperately seeking jane black.black being her maiden name as far as we know.i will give you what i have which is very little!!!

looking for the parents of jane black who had children with fred bull around 1920 possibly worcester to hampshire = thanks

?she had children with fred bull around 1920 so theres a good chance we can find her in either the 1911 cencus or the 1901 even.lets see if we can get this one sorted.

[lizdb]

Without further info any findings will be complete guesswork.

If she was having children in 1920, she must have been, say aged 16 - 45 then.
So she was born 1875-1904.

She was in Worcester or Hampshire then - but could have been born anywhere and spent the previous years of her life anywhere.

sorry, but a bit of a non starter!

You say Black is her maiden name - so does that mean you know she married? If so, when and to whom? Her marriage cert might give more to go go (maybe an age, and a fathers name and occupation)

[cathayb]

we know she married fred bull but we havent a certificate i dont think.i will ask my friend.she had children 1920 with fred bull so i suspect she was born around 1900 and we know she was a traveller.

[aghadowey]

I'm sorry but 1911 census requests are not allowed - please see here:

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,355484.0.html

The index is free to search and there are lots of suggestions on this thread:

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,492718.0.html

[cathayb]

ah thats fine.thanks for telling me.folks if you could just look for her 1901 or pre 1901 i would be grateful or if anyone knows her family line i wopuld be interested.

[cathayb]

right theres a good chance it was hampshire area and pre 1901 her bith as i have her husband now.but my friend isnt sure they were married or just jumped the broom!!!!

 Fred Bull census of 1901, Froxfield Hants, as a child of 9 years born Ropley Hants, and parents named George & Julia Bull, along with his siblings,

[lizdb]

The only Black / Bull marriage is:

Oct/Nov/Dec 1933 Sheppey Kent ref 2a 2739

Fred Bull / Constance E E Black.

What do the birth certs of the children of Fred and Jane say? Is Fred named as the father? Are they registered as Blacks or Bulls? Is the mother given as Jane Black, or Jane Bull nee Black, (or possibly Constance k/a Jane!)

If you have any success tracking any possibles for her in 1911 do put your findings here, then we can look back to 1901, if it turns out she was born pre 1901.

[cathayb]

Fred Bull and Jane Black no marriage found but jane and fred had a daughter called jane bull mothers maiden name jane black according to daughters certificate.

now this is just a feeling i got that i read somewhere else that jane birch born 1863 married a black sometime after the 1871 cencus (cause she was still with her perants)but before 1881 cencus cause shes not with her perants.1933 is far too late unless they married after the kids by the way.their kids were born 1920 onwards...i got to be careful what i post as alot of it is after 1911 and we have a 100 year rule dont we?

[lizdb]

If Jane Black had been married before then her maiden name would be Birch, not Black.

What makes you thimk that this Jane Black nee Birch is the mother of the children with Fred Bull?
If she was born 1863 then it is not really possible, she would be 57 by 1920.

By the way, the ruling on Rootschat is that we dont give details of anyone who might still be living.