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Port Phillip "Exile": George KILMISTER
« on: Sunday 22 May 11 14:26 BST (UK) »
Hello,

George KILMISTER, born c1829 in Cirencester, Gloucester, was transported for 7 years as an "Exile" to Port Phillip aboard the "Thomas Arbuthnot", arriving Williamstown in May 1847.   He was immediately employed as a Shepherd by Alex Irvine in the Pyrenees.  From that moment onwards he seems to vanish, despite extensive research through TROVE, on-line BDMs, Digger CDs and Ancestry "Family Trees" here in the UK.

His parents were James and Mary  according to the 1841 England Census and he had been originally sentenced on 19/07/1843 at Gloucester Assizes for "Stealing luggage from a wagon".   He was one of the "Parkhurst Boys" who I am researching for a PhD.

I wonder, and would be grateful, if anyone can help with any bits of his Biography down under?

Thank you

Tony Cocks
 
 
 
 

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Re: Port Phillip "Exile": George KILMISTER
« Reply #1 on: Monday 23 May 11 20:18 BST (UK) »
C'mon you great Aussie R'chatters......................

Here I am in rainy Sicliy and I told Tony Cocks we were the best researchers in the business so can anyone help him with George KILMISTER??

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Re: Port Phillip "Exile": George KILMISTER
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 24 May 11 01:42 BST (UK) »
Here I am, late autumn, Lake Macquarie NSW .... calm waters reflecting the sky back at me...

Possible clue "Retrained as a brickmaker; refer HO 11/15 P 145"
George Kilmister, 7 year sentence, at age 14, tried Gloucester 19 July 1843, robbing a wagon.

http://members.iinet.net.au/~perthdps/convicts/park8.html

So could be that after arriving down under he was a brickmaker despite his first occupation in Vic being a shepherd.... 

Speculatively ....
could his surname have been altered once he got here?
could he have (post 1851 etc) gone to the gold fields?  .... miners licences/ Ballarat petitions come to mind

I guess we all need to pull our thinking caps down harder.... 

Unfortunately, Judith and Tony, I am very NSW centric, so I am not much help with Vic records, so sorry

Cheers,  JM
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Re: Port Phillip "Exile": George KILMISTER
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 24 May 11 02:01 BST (UK) »
Hopefully this may be of help

NSW State Records Office Keyword search for IRVINE has quite a few, several of likely interest including this one
 
1 July 1842 Irvine Alexander Pyrannees Western Port District Bounded on the North by Western Port District by the East by Sea Coast on the South by Glenelg River and on the West by Portland Bay NRS 906 [X814]; Reel 2748-2749, Page 20 Superintendent: Alexander Irvine.


http://www.records.nsw.gov.au/state-archives/

There's also an index reference for George Kilmister at NSW SRO, and it has to be "HIM", as it shows
Thomas Arbuthnot, 11 Jan 1947, Port Phillip etc  (it also says there's no copy service for the actual record, so it would need someone to attend the Kingswood Archives (Western Sydney) and look up)

Fingers crossed

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Re: Port Phillip "Exile": George KILMISTER
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 24 May 11 02:10 BST (UK) »
Not sure if any connection, and thus I could be WAY WAY off track  but

NSW SRO index for deceased estates notes
John H Kilmister of Wagga's d o d as 31 December 1920, with probate granted 22 July 1922 ...
and NSW BDM online index gives
John H Kilmister, son of John H and Georgina was registered at Albury in 1921, ref 4485.

I find that NSW Probate Packets often contain more than just the will or the administration records, I have been fortunate enough to find in several of my forebears packets such things as m.c. and b.c. and court records naming siblings, forebears etc and arrival ships etc .... more particularly when there were disputes as to the disposal of the estate...

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Re: Port Phillip "Exile": George KILMISTER
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 24 May 11 02:24 BST (UK) »
Port Phillip Government Gazette, December 1847, page 404

John Kilmister is one of many names listed re unclaimed mail held at the General Post Office...  (did not find any in that Gaz for George Kilmister).

I realise you are looking for George Kilmister, son of James and Mary. 

Was George already literate when he was sent to Australia?   I know that George can be shortened on official records to Geo.  and that John can be shortened to Jno.  Both these when written in long hand in the 19th C can be at first glance difficult to tell apart in the 21st C.

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Re: Port Phillip "Exile": George KILMISTER
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 24 May 11 02:26 BST (UK) »
Hi,

There is a brief notice in the Sydney Morning Herald 13th June 1865 on page 1.

" Mr GEORGE KILMISTER, broker is requested to CALL on Mr EDWARD LOWTHER., Sussex-street, without delay."

Unlikey to be your George though.

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Gerry

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Re: Port Phillip "Exile": George KILMISTER
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 24 May 11 02:29 BST (UK) »
Haha no pressure at all then Judith  ;)
No Info on George yet but just to confirm Alex's life;

Alexander was granted a Pastoral License in 1840.
He was granted an extension of his lease in 1848.
he was appointed magistrate of the Teritory on 23.10.1848
Alexander and Isabel  { WILLIAMSON} IRVINE had the following children in Victoria:
Alexander James b 1849  Pyrenees # 8624 Presbyterian  Portland Bay Fiche:171
Alexander James b 1849 Pyrenees # 8878 Presbyterian Bunningyong and Portland Fiche: 177
Catherine b 1850 Pyrenees # 8897 Presbyterian Bunningyong and Portland Fiche: 177
George Forbes b 1851 Glen { Glenlogie?}  # 9324  Presbyterian Bunningyong and Portland Fiche: 190
Margaret Christi b 1852 Glen # 9620 Presbyterian Bunningyong and Portland Fiche : 200

John Wilson Forbes IRVINE d  1884 aged 38 Prahran  # 10270

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Re: Port Phillip "Exile": George KILMISTER
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 24 May 11 02:49 BST (UK) »


Not sure if this may help.It seems a man called Andrew Gill compiled a series of files on information on the 234 Parkhurst Boys that were sent to Western Australia between 1842-1849.You do have to get permission from Andrew Gill to view these files as they are restricted.Might be some valuable information on George Kilmister amongst these files.
Here is the link which is from the State Library of Western Australia.Just contact them with you enquirey and they may be able to help you view the appropriate file on George Kilmister.

http://www.slwa.wa.gov.au/dead_reckoning/private_archives/n-s/parkhurst_boys


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JOHN- Pembrokeshire Wales.  FREEMAN -England?
MEDLICOT -Monmouthshire Wales.
ISAAC -Gloucestershire and Liverpool.[Toxteth Park] SNOW- England .Convict. FRAZER- England.Convict.
DEAL -Ireland .Convict.
KEMP -Saint Mary Cray Kent.Eynsford Wilmington England.Convict.
BLACKBERRY -Whitechapel .Convict. CONDON -alias
DUFFY-Brighton England. Convict.
BANTICK -Ixworth Sussex England. Convict.
JONES England????[George]Convict.
ROSE-England. Convict.
All came to Tas