MEADE Child

[mickmack1942]

I am looking for a child called ...Ruth Meade in the 41c aged 1 year, she was with her mother calling her self Ruth warrener, but as she did not marry Mathew till 1846 in London east, i am using her maiden name as Ruth jnr was registered as Meade in the first quarter 1839 in Ware reg dist jnr was called Mary Ruth Meade, hopefully this is my child , so any info would be use, Ruth snr recorded her self coming from Rickmansworth bn 1819, her father was Charles meade, live in hope die in despair.....mick

[[Ray]]

Possibles (note spellings)?

1839 Ruth Mead Q1 Ware 6 541 Birth Reg
1841 Matthew Warriner is with Ruth (senior) and Ruth (1)
1841 Ruth Mead Q2 Ware 6 419 Death Reg
1846 Matthew Warrener / Ruth Mead Q3 Stepney 2 512 (Ruth pregnant?)
        Aug 11 1846,  St.Thomas
        Both signed, signatures clear as spelled, both of full age
        MW= 2 Charles Street,
        RM= 7 Stepney Causeway
        John Warrener, Shoemaker
        Charles Mead, Blacksmith
        Sarrah Halwarson
        Charles Duckham
 
1851 Matthew Warriner is with Ruth (senior) and Elizabeth (5)
1854 Matthew Warriner Q4 St Geo E 1c 363 Death Reg

1858 Ruth Warrener (39-Widow-signed)
        Charles Shepherd (47-Bach-Milkman-X)
        Both Charles Street
        Mar 22 1858, St.Philips,BethnalGreen     
        Charles Mead, Blacksmith
        Thomas Shephard, Ropemaker
        Joseph Robinson (X)
        Frances Walker (X)

[mickmack1942]

Hi Ray of croxley creen, Thank you for all that, I am trying to find ruth jnr's Bp record, just for the record so to speak who daddy is and bth date but the Ware reg dist is quite extensive in places, just to fill a few gaps, ruth jnr was born out of wed lock it seems so might not have been churched plus the date she died, the reg dates are a bit to wide for me, to put some flesh on the child other wise its just a name, anyway thanks for your help....
            good hunting.... mick

[Maddie]

Hi Mick

I don't think the Ruth Mead/e in Ware has anything to do with your Ruth unfortunately.

The death reg in 1841 Q2 Ware would, I suspect, be for Ruth Mead buried 13th May 1841 aged 2, Stanstead Abbots, St James. Her abode was Stanstead Abbots.

There is a christening on the IGI for Ruth Meade 2nd June 1839, Stanstead Abbots, parents Simon & Elizabeth which coincides with the birth reg in 1839 Q1 Ware.

Are you saying that Ruth's daughter was named Mary Ruth Mead, or have I got that wrong.   

Are we still looking for a death for her prior to 1851 or perhaps not.

Maddie

[mickmack1942]

Hi there Maddie nice to speak, I did not know for certain that the ware ruth was mine its that in the 41c my ruth mead had a child ruth aged 1, in the 51c there was no ruth, she would have been 11,I assume she died, and so I thought I would run with this to see if any one could throw some light on her, this is why I put it up on roots to test the water, had nothing in stone, I found my ruth in the 41c with this child and as she gave her origin as millend rickmansworth, I reasoned right/wrong that the child was of same as it seems out of wed lock because ruth senior marr in 1846 in london, ever hopefull there was a church record, but it would seem not the ware child was no mine......mick   

[mickmack1942]

Sorry Maddie, I left a bit out from your post, all I know is that she was Ruth (Mead) as mummy was not married at the time, the info comes from the 41c she was with her future hubby Mathew Warrener of Boston lincs, and the 51c has ruth married and another child elizabeth...........mick

ps yes I am looking for a child prior to 51c......

[Maddie]

Hi Mick

I did see them on the 1841 but as there are no relationship details, perhaps one year old Ruth belongs to Mathew. Not likely I guess but who knows.

Will take another look later, in the meantime perhaps Ray will have some ideas.

Maddie

[Maddie]

Hi Mick

I think this is a case of vanishing children...... Having no luck finding little Ruth & now I can't find little Elizabeth from the 1851 census, no birth or a death for either child. Found your Ruth in 1861 with new husband & 2 year old daughter Sarah. What is going on.

Have you found Ruth's parents Charles & Charlotte in the census, or perhaps even her sister Ann born c1821. I see she also had a brother Charles born 1809 but I think he died at 13 months & was buried in 1810.

Maddie

[[Ray]]

Aha!

If the basis of where Ruth(b1819) was born is the 1851 census?

"Herts Millend" is what she said.

Millend may not be Mill End Rickmansworth.
It may be, say, Mill End, Rushden Herts (Buntingford area), or other.

Ray