medical ancestor

[angelc]

My 3xgreat grandfather Robert Edward Craine obtained his License in Midwifery in 1834 in Dublin and was, at some point, a 'Demonstrator of Anatomy' in Lower Camden Street, Dublin.  The Royal College of Physicians of Ireland suggest that this prob refers to a private medical school of anatomy run by an individual surgeon. Is there any way I can find out any more detail about who or what this might have been ie via street directories of the time? and where might I gain access to these?
He married Eleanor Isabella Kelly on 1st Jan 1836 in St Peter's Church, Dublin - both are said to have been living at Camden Street. Any further info on Eleanor would be wonderful. I think she was born around 1812, in Ireland but after their marriage they returned to Robert Edward's home in the Isle of Man.
Any grain of info would be great. Thanks.

[shanew147]

It might be a little too early, but I dont see any medical school or similar on Camden street in 1834 (Pettigrew and Oulton). These are the medical related entries for the street in case any are relevant :

  2 George Mansfield, apothecary  (also listed an #40)
  3 James Curtis, surgeon
  81 George Langsdale, chymist & druggist

how long did Robert and Eleanor stay in Dublin ?


Shane

[Quaxer]

Angelc

Check to see who issued the licence in midwifery. That source may still have records. A medical directory will show the origin of the qualification.
An Act became law on 1st August 1832  regulating the practice of anatomy within the U.K. The Chief Secretary in Ireland was empowered to issue licences to qualified persons to practise anatomy and appoint inspectors of anatomical schools. You should see whether the National Archives in Dublin who have the papers from the Chief Secretary"s Office have anything of interest to you about the Camden Street premises and failing that look at the annual returns to the Imperial Parliament which should be contained in the British Parliamentary Papers.

Quaxer

[myluck!]

Robert and Eleanor's marriage is on www.irihsgenaelogy.ie but not yet scanned

If you google Robert's full name a family tree is available that may be of interets if not yours - it is for his son Thomas in Western Australian

[angelc]

Thanks - that's where I found the marriage. Is it likely that there will be any further info in the actual register?

The Thomas Craine who went to W Australia is my direct line - he stole a lamb tup in 1860 and was transported for life. Thomas was Robert Edward's illegitimate son - it looks like a case of sowing wild oats while young - and I have been out to Greenough where he settled. Of all Robert Edward's children, Thomas' is the only line which goes beyond the next generation.

[shanew147]

Given the early date (1836), it unlikely that the register will have any more details than those already transcribed by IrishGenealogy

A Church of Ireland marriage record for that time would often just show date, bride and groom's names, addresses (often quite basic) and names of witnesses.

Many of the Church of Ireland Dublin records on IrishGenealogy do have images available already, so hopefully those for St. Peter's will be added at some point soon.


Shane

link to marriage for reference Craine/Kelly marriage - 1836

[angelc]

Thanks Quaxar. The info I have on Robert Edward came originally from the Royal College of Physicians and Surgeons of Glasgow from their Medical Directories - it was presumed that his LM was probably gained at Trinity (but Trinity had been unable to find him when I queried his attendance there in 2002). Glasgow suggests he may have had connections with the Royal College of Surgeons of Ireland but did not know in what capacity - possibly just demonstrated anatomy for them.
I contacted the Royal College of Physicians of Ireland and they say their directories state "he was a Demonstrator in Anatomy in Lower Camden street and the Royal College of Surgeons Ireland. The address in Lower Camden street probably refers to a private school of anatomy run by an individual surgeon. His License in Midwifery (LM) was probably obtained from a hospital medical school."
I presume I would have to travel to Dublin to search in the National Archives to further this search. Thanks for giving me some pointers and the info on the 1832 Act.