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Offline IgorStrav

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Re: Dating please?
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 21 May 11 21:08 BST (UK) »
What evidence do you have that she was 48 in the 1901 Census?  Do you have her birth reference?
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Re: Dating please?
« Reply #10 on: Saturday 21 May 11 21:19 BST (UK) »
I'd recheck any other sources you have for her and the family.

The census invigilator may have misheard her age or perhaps scribbled it down making it hard to distinguish an 8 from a 0

and sometimes people didn't always tell the truth on census forms.  ;)


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Re: Dating please?
« Reply #11 on: Saturday 21 May 11 22:05 BST (UK) »
IGI has the Moneymore baptisms where she was born, I have her born 1852, daughter of Benjamin Workman, a carpenter. On the census she is aged 40 so born around 1861 (so nine years not 8), the marriage cert gives her father as Benjamin Workman, farmer and her husband Robert's father as David. The family on census have a David and I found a baptism for him as David Benjamin Speers suggesting that the census family are definitely the ones from the marriage certificate, it's just whether there was another Mary Workman daughter of Benjamin kicking around the area. I'm not sure and yet their address at 4 Clarence Street is round the corner from Ship Quay Place and them having a daughter called Caroline when a Caroline Speers witnessed my 3Xgreat gran's daughter's wedding seems a bit of a coincidence, the photo actually belonged to the daughter whose wedding Caroline Speers witnessed also and as I said I can find no evidence in England of this Caroline Speers. I find this family history research very difficult!
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Re: Dating please?
« Reply #12 on: Saturday 21 May 11 22:30 BST (UK) »
apart from an enumerator error as already mentioned it depended on who was giving the information.
Have you found her in 1911?

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Warks:Ashford;Cadby;Clarke;Clifford;Cooke Copage;Easthope;
Edmonds;Felton;Colledge;Lutwyche;Mander(s);May;Poole;Withers.
Staffs.Edmonds;Addison;Duffield;Webb;Fisher;Archer
Salop:Easthope,Eddowes,Hoorde,Oteley,Vernon,Talbot,De Neville.
Notts.Clarke;Redfearne;Treece.
Som.May;Perriman;Cox
India Kane;Felton;Cadby
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Re: Dating please?
« Reply #13 on: Saturday 21 May 11 23:09 BST (UK) »
No the entire family is absent from the Irish 1911 census children and all, they don't seem to be on the English 1911 either. If the Caroline Speers who signs the marriage certificate in England in 1904 is the same one as the possible cousin in Ireland then this is the last sign of them. Either I can't find them or they have gone somewhere else. I bought the marriage record for another of the sisters and one I know to be definite and this also gives the same different occupation as the one I bought for these so it removes that niggle. Thanks for your help everyone. I will have to think about this some more.
Judith.

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Re: Dating please?
« Reply #14 on: Saturday 21 May 11 23:23 BST (UK) »
Maybe they emigrated.
You could start a new topic on the beginners board & ask for someone to look at those records.

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Warks:Ashford;Cadby;Clarke;Clifford;Cooke Copage;Easthope;
Edmonds;Felton;Colledge;Lutwyche;Mander(s);May;Poole;Withers.
Staffs.Edmonds;Addison;Duffield;Webb;Fisher;Archer
Salop:Easthope,Eddowes,Hoorde,Oteley,Vernon,Talbot,De Neville.
Notts.Clarke;Redfearne;Treece.
Som.May;Perriman;Cox
India Kane;Felton;Cadby
London.Haysom.
Lancs.Gay.
Worcs.Coley;Mander;Sawyer.
Kings of Wessex & Scotland
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www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/

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Re: Dating please?
« Reply #15 on: Sunday 22 May 11 09:14 BST (UK) »
Thanks Jim I've going to try that. Don't know where to start with emigration. My son has inputted the information on to his ancestry tree but no joy there either, we were hoping for a quick fix from an ancestry hint. Can I say thanks to all the people who have helped me with this, your advice is much appreciated. Thank you.
Judith.