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daniel luke llanasa
« on: Thursday 19 May 11 18:37 BST (UK) »
hi would like some info on Daniel Luke's parents don't know anything about them only Daniel and his wife Elizabeth both born llanasa they are living in gronant in 1881                                                                                                                         

Daniel 1841
Elizabeth 1842  what was her maiden name
there daughter Harriet is my g nain
                                 
                                  thanks Wendy
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Re: daniel luke llanasa
« Reply #1 on: Friday 20 May 11 08:49 BST (UK) »
Going back to 1851 census, I found this:

Reference HO107, Piece 2500, Folio 62, Page 34
Gronant, Llanasa, Flintshire

Luke, Evan  Head  M  38  Labourer  St Asaph, Denbighshire
Luke, Elizabeth  Wife  F  32  b Llansanan, Debighshire
Luke, Richard  Son  M  16  Labourer  b Llanasan
Luke, John  Son  M  15  Labourer  b Cefn Meriadeg, Denbighshire
Luke, Daniel  Son  M  15  At Home  b Cefn Meriadeg
Luke, Elizabeth  Daughter  F  11  At Home  b Cefn Meriadeg
Luke, Richard  Lodger  Widower  M  69  Shoemaker  b Tremeirchion, Flintshire

That's the only Daniel Luke I can find in 1851, in North Wales!
Garrad (Suffolk, Essex, Somerset), Crocker (Somerset), Vanstone (Devon, Jersey), Sims (Wiltshire), Bridger (Kent)

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Re: daniel luke llanasa
« Reply #2 on: Friday 20 May 11 09:00 BST (UK) »
Looks like Daniel and Elizabeth got married in Birkenhead?

March qtr 1865
Birkenhead district    Vol 8a, Page 726

Luke, Daniel
+ and on the same page +
Davis, Elizabeth
Stephenson, Elizabeth

So looks like you need the marriage certificate to tell you her maiden name!


In 1861, there is a Daniel Luke in the Birkenhead area:
Reference RG09, 2649, 93, 3
Brighton Street, Poulton cum Seacombe, Cheshire

Kewley, Margaret  Head  Widow  F  53  Provision Dealer b Shropshire
Kewley, Sarah  Daughter  F  19  b Seacombe
Luke, Daniel  Boarder  M  21  Bricklayers Labourer  b Wales


Daniels date of birth is proving difficult!
He states his year of birth (according to census returns 1861-1891) as 1840.

But I cannot find an entry on FreeBMD for a Daniel Luke in that period, and the 1851 census I found seems to suggest he is older?
Garrad (Suffolk, Essex, Somerset), Crocker (Somerset), Vanstone (Devon, Jersey), Sims (Wiltshire), Bridger (Kent)

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Re: daniel luke llanasa
« Reply #3 on: Friday 20 May 11 17:26 BST (UK) »
hi thank you could they have got the age wrong looking at it they say both Daniel and john same age it might just be they are twins in 1881 it does say he is 40 gettin confused now
                                       
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Re: daniel luke llanasa
« Reply #4 on: Friday 20 May 11 20:03 BST (UK) »
According to UK BMD Daniel Luke married an Elizabeth Davis at Wallasey,St Hilary in 1865.

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William Russell Jones.
Jones, Griffiths. Stephens, Parry, Gabriel, Conway, Hughes, Evans, Roberts, Lea, Hanmer. Peake, Edwards. Newnes, Davies. Thomas. "Blythin".
All North Wales.
Conway, Durber, Cartlidge, Lovatt, Bebington. Brindley, Sankey, Brunt. Dean. Clewes. Rhodes. Mountford,Walker,Bache, "Gibbons"Hood. Taylor
All Stoke-on-Trent.
Francis - Nantwich Cheshire.
Dennell - Cheshire/Staffordshire.
Talbot-Shropshire
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Re: daniel luke llanasa
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 02 July 11 00:47 BST (UK) »
I wonder if Daniel Luke could be a descendant of my Luke Pritchard from Penmachno, who had three sons that I know of: Owen Luke(my GGGG grandfather, 1762-1840), William Luke (bapt. 1767) and Joseph Luke (bapt. 1769). The fact that Daniel has a son (brother of your Harriet, Wendy) called Joseph in the 1881 census, and a brother called Richard in the 1851 census suggests that it is not an impossible connection. Quite possibly the Richard Luke aged 69 in 1851 is the father or uncle of Evan Luke, Daniel's father, even though no relationship is mentioned.

Apart from the age difference between the 1851 and later censuses, there is also the difference in birthplaces:  Cefn Meriadeg (presumably the present day Cefn Meiriadog, which is the other side of St Asaph from Llanasa) in 1851 and Llanasa in 1881. But perhaps Daniel did not know his birthplace nor his exact date of birth - after all people didn't need to have such information at their fingertips in those days as they didn't have to fill in forms etc very often. I would be more inclined to believe the 1851 census, where the information was presumably given by his parents and they should know :) Has anyone seen the 1841 Census for him?

I plan to look sometime soon at the Llanasa parish registers (for some Conways in Gronant) covering the time from 1812 and will keep my eyes open for Lukes.

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Re: daniel luke llanasa
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 02 July 11 09:48 BST (UK) »
Welcome to Rootschat AnniElin.

Maybe you could tell us about your Conway family in another thread?It is one of my main surnames!

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William Russell Jones.
Jones, Griffiths. Stephens, Parry, Gabriel, Conway, Hughes, Evans, Roberts, Lea, Hanmer. Peake, Edwards. Newnes, Davies. Thomas. "Blythin".
All North Wales.
Conway, Durber, Cartlidge, Lovatt, Bebington. Brindley, Sankey, Brunt. Dean. Clewes. Rhodes. Mountford,Walker,Bache, "Gibbons"Hood. Taylor
All Stoke-on-Trent.
Francis - Nantwich Cheshire.
Dennell - Cheshire/Staffordshire.
Talbot-Shropshire
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Re: daniel luke llanasa
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 03 July 11 13:32 BST (UK) »
hi annielin thanks for that i have not seen the 1841c maybe some nice person will take a look for us

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