Watson

[bendywendy]

Hi Pankpop
The link to Henry W and his Will does not work, I have read it, will copy it here for others to read.


Collection   DDKE   KIRK ELLA ESTATE PAPERS (PROPERTY OF JOSEPH SYKES)
Series   DDKE/8   Kirk Ella Estate (Kirk Ella; West Ella; Ferriby; Swanland; Willerby)
DDKE/8/41     10 August - 12 November 1720
(b) Will of Henry Watson of Swanland. Bequests to sons Henry, John, William, Thomas and Samuel; daughters Mary and Margaret: farm in Swanland. 3 closes at Seaton. Close and 10ac. in fields of Kirk Ella and West Ella: Witnessed James Fox, Elizabeth Watson, Timothy Williamson. 10 August 1720. Probate 25 September 1723.


As for the info on Swanland, I have never come across that before, tis fascinating.
It mentions Henry Watson as Overseer for Swanland in North Ferriby Church Book 1695, maybe we should turn our sights to Registrations there.. I have had a quick look on familysearch.org   Watson are listed, alas no Joseph 

This family of Henry Watson is  "boggling"...   off to bed now...

A little snippet of Swanland    http://www.swanlander.karoo.net/history%20sw.htm

bendywendy

[Pankpop]

Interesting historical account of the Independent Chapel at Swanland here:
http://www.swanlander.karoo.net/O5.htm

I read somewhere that only baptisms were allowed to be registered at the Independent Chapel in Swanland and that marriages and burials had to be conducted at one of the nearby parishes of North Ferriby, Kirk Ella or Rowley. So perhaps that explains why Joseph Watson and Elizabeth Forge married at Rowley and why they may still be part of the larger Watson family of Swanland.

Pankpop

[Pankpop]

Here's a good map that shows just how close all these farms were to each other.
http://visionofbritain.org.uk/maps/results.jsp?xCenter=3333771.278021&yCenter=3039680.60521&scale=63360&mapLayer=nineteenth&subLayer=first_edition&title=Ordnance%20Survey%20and%20Ordnance%20Survey%20of%20Scotland%20First%20Series

[Pankpop]

Just found another link that looks like William Watson, only brother of our Joseph, farmed at West Ella Grange and died in 1809 aged 41. So one was at Kirk Ella Grange and the other at West Ella Grange.

http://books.google.co.za/books?id=tCkAAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA538&lpg=PA538&dq=%22William+Watson%22+West+Ella&source=bl&ots=2_RO6ETDk_&sig=jcCzDUh9sMP7Kxcoea2Nca90bl8&hl=en&ei=y_XRTsnuGITMhAfhgYG_DQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=2&sqi=2&ved=0CCYQ6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q=%22William%20Watson%22%20West%20Ella&f=false

[bendywendy]

Morning Pankpop
Interesting info, especially only Bap allowed at Ind Swanland.
I recall looking through the register page by page of Kirk Ella and noting some pages missing on the original, will have another look at it and see if it will fit in with Joseph Watson c 1740 ish.

Noting from the Will of Henry Watson a witness is Elizabeth, this could be his wife but alas I have searched for a marriage with these names with no success.

So now a search for Bap for William Watson c 1768 ish.

bendywendy

[bendywendy]

BINGO...found what could be the baptism for the William Watson that died 1809 aged 41 yrs.

William Watson
baptism date:   1760  Place:   INDEPENDENT, SWANLAND, YORK, ENGLAND
father:   Henry Watson
mother:   Mary
Indexing No:   C13367-1          System:   England-VR    Film:   828164


I put some other Baptisms on page 11 for children  of a Henry Watson and Mary which could be siblings to this William above.

Alas, still no Joseph.

BUT another  Marriage for Henry Watson and Mary.... could he have married twice

groom   Henry Wattson
bride:   Mary Dookes
marriage date:   21 Nov 1737   place:   Seamer Near Scarborough,York,England
Indexing No:   M10618-2        System:   England-ODM           Film No:   919209

I have cross ref for children baptised in or around Scarborough to this couple and found nothing.    And still no Joseph found.

bendywendy

[bendywendy]

Baptism @ Seamer.  Looking at marriage details this would be their first born so maybe she was taken to her mothers home for baptism.  There dosen't appear to be any more siblings for this area.  There is other Watson 1710 and later 1770/80 but nothing inbetween.
Also note, if this is the correct Henry Watson then his next born was 1759 Swanland  and last born 1770 making 32 yrs for childbearing, unless his first wife died and he remarried to another Mary

Isabell Watson
Baptism date:   15 Oct 1738   Place:   SEAMER NEAR SCARBOROUGH,YORK,ENGLAND
Father:   Henry Watson
Indexing No:   C10618-2   System:   England-ODM         Film No:   919209

bendywendy

[WolfieSmith]

Some of the places of abode on the Swanland and Cottingham baptisms, might be useful.

25 March 1768. Swanland. William, son of Joseph & Elizabeth Watson of West Ella.

1 Jan 1770. Swanland. Elizabeth, daughter of Joseph & Elizabeth Watson of West Ella.

7 Nov 1771 Cottingham. Mary, daughter of Joseph & Elizabeth Watson of Kirk Ella.

2 Dec 1775. Swanland. Catherine, daughter of Joseph & Elizabeth Watson of West Ella.

19 Feb 1777. Swanland. Joseph, son of Joseph & Elizabeth Watson of West Ella.

10 Nov 1778. Swanland. John, son of Joseph & Elizabeth Watson of West Ella, Farmers.

8 May 1780. Swanland. Ann, daughter of Joseph & Elizabeth Watson, Farmers in West Ella.

24 Sep 1781. Swanland. Hannah, daughter of Joseph & Elizabeth Watson, Farmers in West Ella.

20 Aug 1784. Swanland. Joseph, son of Joseph & Elizabeth Watson of West Ella.

27 April 1817. Swanland. Ann, daughter of Joseph & Elizabeth Watson of Hensley in the Parish of Rowley.

4 July 1819. Swanland. Hannah, daughter of Joseph & Elizabeth Watson of Little Weighton in the Parish of Rowley.

19 July 1823. Cottingham. William, son of Joseph & Elizabeth Watson of Little Weighton.

3 Sep 1825.  Swanland. Sarah, daughter of Joseph & Elizabeth Watson of Little Weighton in the Parish of Rowley.

5 May 1827. Swanland. Barry Wride, son of Joseph & Elizabeth Watson of Little Weighton in the Parish of Rowley.

11 Feb 1829. Swanland. Elizabeth, daughter of Joseph & Elizabeth Watson of Little Weighton in the Parish of Rowley.

4 Dec 1830. Swanland. Rebecca, daughter of Joseph & Elizabeth Watson of Kirk Ella Grange.

16 Jan 1834. Swanland. Joseph, son of Joseph & Elizabeth Watson of Kirk Ella Grange.

12 Aug 1836. Swanland. Jane, daughter of Joseph & Elizabeth Watson of Kirk Ella Grange.

Alan.

[bendywendy]

 I am going to recap the lineage for this Watson family that I started researching. 


Henry Watson & Mary Dookes  ....  See details up above for their marriage details.
Children - Isabell 1738
OR could he have married twice

Henry Watson to Mary Hall  dau of William Hall of Swanland, gentleman.
Henry 1759, William 1760, Nancy 1763, Mary 1763, Mary 1767, Thomas 1770.

groom:   Henry Watson
bride:   Mary Hall
marriage date:   16 May 1758    place:   North Ferriby,York,England
Indexing No:   M10670-2    System:   England-ODM         Film No:   919482


The following lines are sourced and form part of the Watson families of Kirk Ella and all the info is within this thread:

Joseph Watson c 1740 ish married Elizabeth Forge - Bapt 1746 Rowley
Children - William 1768, Elizabeth 1769, Elizabeth 1770, Mary 1771, Catharine 1775, Joseph 1777, John 1778, Ann 1780,
Hannah 1781 & Joseph 1784.


Joseph 1784 married Elizabeth   their marriage not found as yet
Children - Ann 1817, Hannah 1819, William 1823, Sarah 1825, Barry Wride 1827, Elizabeth 1829, Rebecca 1830, Joseph 1834, Jane 1836


Joseph Watson 1834 married Martha Walker
Children - Joseph 1857, Arthur 1859, Annie G 1860, Ada 1864


Joseph Watson 1857 married Lavinia Sanderson AND THEN eloped to Canada 1907 with Alice Hood.
This is where the thread originally started from by broadgates.
Children - Joseph 1884, Dorothy Ethel 1889, Cyril Douglas 1890, Enid Lavinia Julia 1886, Harold 1901.


bendywendy