SHAW in Hertfordshire: mystery man in travelling van

[CitizenSmith]

When a family member named Ann Cary (alias Draper) died at Broad Colney, Shenley, Hertfordshire, on 18 March 1879, the informant on her death certificate was a Jeremiah Shaw, described as being present at the death and living in a Travelling Van at Broad Colney, Shenley.

I've got lots of records for Gypsy Shaws in Hertfordshire and surrounding counties – but have never come across any Jeremiahs before. And he's not obvious in online databases either: census indexes, FamilySearch etc.

Any ideas anyone? Thanks.

Sharon

[rob g]

hi, hello again sharon. we have talked before. try scotlands people site. and lanc opc site, as there are lots of romany shaws, that lived in scotland, and lancashire. i know this is a long way from your shaws, but you would be suprised how far gypsy folk can travel? there may be a link, even though they are a long way apart. bye for now.  rob g

[CitizenSmith]

Good idea, Rob. Many thanks.

Sharon

[draper1]

Hi  , I saw your post regarding the name draper, your post interested me because I'm also a draper, kind regards maria

[CitizenSmith]

Hi Maria

Good to make contact. Perhaps we can share notes about the Draper family if you're researching them?

My Drapers are mainly in and around Hertfordshire and surrounding counties but I collect all references to the name as a Romany surname across the UK. So I may have information to offer if you're tracing a specific family. Let me have a few details and I'll take a look.

Sharon

[draper1]

Hi Sharon,.   My grandad has sadly passed away(Percy draper) my dad's name is Timmy draper) speaking to dad I understand the drapers are a very large family, my grandad ( Percy draper) sadly had a brother who went missing in the war (Spencer draper) most of the drapers like in Kent::::::::::: i would like to know your grandad name and your dad's name if possible, my grandad (Percy draper) had brothers.  Thanks maria

[CitizenSmith]

Hi Maria

I've got quite a lot of material on the Drapers who lived in Kent. My info seems to indicate that they had their origins several generations back in Hertfordshire/Bedfordshire. Spencer is a name that crops up quite a lot in the families I know about, going back over about 200 years. The first reference I have to a Spencer Draper is in 1805 in Leicestershire.

My personal connection to the Drapers doesn't start until the early 19th century: my 4xgreat-grandmother was Mirella Draper who was the partner of Ambrose Smith. He was born 1785 in Norfolk. She was born around 1791 and came from the Hertfordshire/Cambridgeshire area. They travelled in Norfolk, Suffolk and Essex and saw Norwich as their main base.

Happy to help with finding out more about your grandad Percy's ancestors if I can.

Sharon

[draper1]

Hi Sharon.     My grandad was born in bexleyheath,(Percy draper) I know speaking to my dad the draper family traveled all over the country,  were settled down and iv never traveled, my name is (draper-smith) my dads brother were named Levi,Benny, Edmund,. ..I would love to see any family draper photos you have, my email draper449@gmail.com

[Philip Kendall]

Hi Sharon, iam of Romany origin definitely try Lancashire,kushti book good luck in your search!   Philip Hawkshaw .