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Re: For 'Linmey' re Woodhams from Bedfordshire
« Reply #54 on: Thursday 23 June 11 17:17 BST (UK) »
Jill, I'm intrigued! How have you linked William born c1785 in St Neots, with Woodhams in Riseley 150 years earlier?

David
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            Southill: Faulkner/Litchfield/Sabey/Rook
            Woburn/Husborne Crawley: Surkitt
Hunts:   Gt Gransden: Merrill/Chandler/Medlock
            Toseland: Surkitt/Hedge/Corn         
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Re: For 'Linmey' re Woodhams from Bedfordshire
« Reply #55 on: Thursday 23 June 11 17:36 BST (UK) »
It's easy when you know how! The Woodhams moved across country from Beds through Cambs to Essex and beyond through the 18th century. I'm almost certain they are connected to the Sharnbrook family as well, and the Nash Woodhams in Cambs, and also connected to some well connected familes in S Cambs as well. The full explanation goes through 300 pages and has taken at least 10 years to sort out, so if you're interested let me know.

Tickle

PS Jill, I'll be back to you shortly.
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Benning/Bening - Middx, & Cambs
Brook - Suffolk/Cambs
Burton - Herts
Petley - Suffolk
Death - Suffolk
Ellington - Suffolk/Cambs
Elsworth - New York
Fayers/Faiers/Faires - Suffolk
Grasemann - Germany & London
Howels - Hants
Mitchell - Sussex, Surrey
Oldham - Lancs
Priest - Hants
Raines - Co Cork, Ireland
Rysdyck/Rysdyke - Netherlands, & New York
Ryder - Cheshire/Lancs
Sanders - Hants
Urmson - Cheshire
Willis - Suffolk
Woodham - Cambs, Beds, Essex

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Re: For 'Linmey' re Woodhams from Bedfordshire
« Reply #56 on: Friday 24 June 11 08:05 BST (UK) »
David, I'm still trying to make out old wills etc but it seems to go like this......
.......William Woodham b c1778-1786 Gamlingay died in Barton 1859. His death cert states he was 81yrs, hence the c 1778 dob, and that he was a 'Gentleman'. He married Sarah Hutchinson (another baptist family) in 1806 Graveley and they went on to have Gabriel c 1809 (named after Sarah's father), William c 1809, George 1813 Gt Gransden, Hunts., John c 1816 and David c 1820. Gabriel and William bpt St Neots HARDWICKE 1809.
     William Woodham b c 1778-86 had parents William Woodham b c 1756 Gamlingay and Mary Mead. William and Mary had other kids including Samuel b c 1782 Gamlingay, who eventually married Susanna Careless and had, among others, a son called NODES Woodham.
      William b c 1756 died in 1833 and left a will (I have a copy) in which he bequeathed stuff to Susannah, widow of his son Samuel, and also his daughter, now Mary Manning. He bequeathed his house, land and malting to his younger son Thomas leaving his eldest son only £400 to be paid out by Thomas.
    William b 1756 had parents John Woodham b 1688 Gamlingay, Cambs. and d 1772 Risley, Beds. and 2nd wife Rebecca NODES. I have a copy of this John's will too which leaves bequests to his son William and his grandson, John Woodham, son of his 1st wife's son Benjamin (aka Benning Woodham, maybe I think). His 1st wife was Barabara Benning. He also bequeathed to his other G'sons George and John Triplow, sons of his daughter Elizabeth by Barbara. There is more but I haven't finished 'transcribing' it yet.
      I think this John Woodham b 1688 might have had a father called Thomas Woodham b c 1659 Risley, as John christened his second son 'Thomas' in Thriplow in 1719. Barbara Benning was born in Thriplow in c 1690.
   
    I hope you can now see why I've linked my William Woodham b c 1781 Gamlingay to the Risley Woodhams. Please tell me if you can see any glaring mistakes, David.
                           Jill

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Re: For 'Linmey' re Woodhams from Bedfordshire
« Reply #57 on: Friday 24 June 11 09:22 BST (UK) »
Hi Jill

I'm going through it at this very moment, but I may be interrupted by having to take a shower!

One quick observation - I can't see a 1772 burial of John in Riseley (just 1774) but there is a 28 Oct 1772 burial of John Woodham age 83 in Gamlingay. Is he yours? But a snap judgment is that I can't see a link from Gamlingay to Riseley

I'll be back with my considered thoughts a bit later

David


Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
Beds:   Cople: Luke/Spencer
            Everton: Hale
            Henlow: Cooper/Watts/Sabey/Rook
            Potton:  Merrill
            Southill: Faulkner/Litchfield/Sabey/Rook
            Woburn/Husborne Crawley: Surkitt
Hunts:   Gt Gransden: Merrill/Chandler/Medlock
            Toseland: Surkitt/Hedge/Corn         
Cambs: Bourn: Bowd
            Eltisley: Medlock
            Graveley: Ford/Revell


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Re: For 'Linmey' re Woodhams from Bedfordshire
« Reply #58 on: Friday 24 June 11 11:08 BST (UK) »
Hello Jill and David

The John Woodham buried in Gamlingay Oct 1772 was born in Riseley, married Barbara Benning in Granchester in 1714 and is my 6x great grandfather. He in turn was one of 10 children born to Thomas Woodham and Susannah Webb who married at Riseley in 1687 and had 4 sons and 6 daughters born all over the place, Riseley, Gt Abington, Croydon (Cambs,) etc. This family has been a nightmare to track down and it has taken a long time. I am almost sure they connect to the Woodham family at Sharnbrook, and they are also connected to Woodhams at Riseley, Keysoe, Ely, Knotting, Gamlingay, London, Steeple Bumpstead. Newport,  (Essex), and many other places in between. They were all (almost) non-conformists, certainly in the 17th/18th century, independents (congregationalists) rather than Baptists, and farmers. I have traced them through Wills, Independent Church Books, and documents, and because of their economy in using a select few first names, they are very confusing.

So, over the weekend I'm going to try and go through this thread and answer as many of your questions as I can. It will take some time, and weather permitting I have gardening to do as well, so please be patient. The alternative would be to send you a huge file, and let you play with that! But your queries may answer some of mine so I think I would rather reply to you.

Hope this helps. Watch this space

Are we all cousins?

John
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Benning/Bening - Middx, & Cambs
Brook - Suffolk/Cambs
Burton - Herts
Petley - Suffolk
Death - Suffolk
Ellington - Suffolk/Cambs
Elsworth - New York
Fayers/Faiers/Faires - Suffolk
Grasemann - Germany & London
Howels - Hants
Mitchell - Sussex, Surrey
Oldham - Lancs
Priest - Hants
Raines - Co Cork, Ireland
Rysdyck/Rysdyke - Netherlands, & New York
Ryder - Cheshire/Lancs
Sanders - Hants
Urmson - Cheshire
Willis - Suffolk
Woodham - Cambs, Beds, Essex

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Re: For 'Linmey' re Woodhams from Bedfordshire
« Reply #59 on: Friday 24 June 11 19:10 BST (UK) »
Hello Tickle

Do you info on Thomas & Susannah's daughter Dinah baptised in 1703 at Croydon cum Clapton . . . . . . & the Thomas Partridge she married in 1733 at Sharnbrook...

see     http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,469576.0.html

cheers John
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Re: For 'Linmey' re Woodhams from Bedfordshire
« Reply #60 on: Friday 24 June 11 20:27 BST (UK) »
Sorry! Wrong Dinah. The one at Croydon was buried 9 Dec 1703 also at Croydon. Back to the drawing board I'm afraid on that one. If she was married at Sharnbrook I would look to the Sharnbrook family for an answer to that one. And I haven't done much on the later Sharnbrook family so I can't help directly, though Sharnbrook is on the IGI. However, some of the Sharnbrook lot were also non-conformist!

Good luck

Tickle
Alder - Berks
Benning/Bening - Middx, & Cambs
Brook - Suffolk/Cambs
Burton - Herts
Petley - Suffolk
Death - Suffolk
Ellington - Suffolk/Cambs
Elsworth - New York
Fayers/Faiers/Faires - Suffolk
Grasemann - Germany & London
Howels - Hants
Mitchell - Sussex, Surrey
Oldham - Lancs
Priest - Hants
Raines - Co Cork, Ireland
Rysdyck/Rysdyke - Netherlands, & New York
Ryder - Cheshire/Lancs
Sanders - Hants
Urmson - Cheshire
Willis - Suffolk
Woodham - Cambs, Beds, Essex

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Re: For 'Linmey' re Woodhams from Bedfordshire
« Reply #61 on: Saturday 25 June 11 08:27 BST (UK) »
Hello Tickle and John,
     Tickle, did Barbara Benning die and her husband remarry a Rebecca Nodes, or was one of their sons called John also, and was he the one that married a Rebecca Nodes? If we can prove this bit of my tree then, yes, my Woodham tree and yours are related. I could also do with a bit more 'proof info' on William Woodham b abt 1878/86 Gamlingay who married SArah Hutchinson and had a son, William, around 1809 (bpt St Neots at the Old Meeting House 26 Feb 1809)
     If proved without doubt, John Woodham buried 1772 Gamlingay, would be my 6xGt Grandad also.  So, maybe, "Hi Cousin"!!
                       Jill

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Re: For 'Linmey' re Woodhams from Bedfordshire
« Reply #62 on: Saturday 25 June 11 08:29 BST (UK) »
........and I meant to add that I now think Benning Woodham c 1720-1760 and the Benjamin Woodham I mentioned previously are two different people.
                        Jill