For 'Linmey' re Woodhams from Bedfordshire

[bedfordshire boy]

........and I meant to add that I now think Benning Woodham c 1720-1760 and the Benjamin Woodham I mentioned previously are two different people.
                        Jill

So do I! If Benning predeceased his father then he wouldn't normally be mentioned in the father's will, unless the father left bequests to the children/widow of "my late son Benning"

There's a burial of Barbary Woodham at Thriplow on 13 July 1734. There's a Nodes Woodham born Gamlingay in 1828 which implies a link between the London marriage to Rebecca Nodes and Cambs, although that marriage was three generations earlier so it seems to be a bit remote.

David (a SKS who has no connection to the Woodham name!)

[johnP-bedford]

      I think this John Woodham b 1688 might have had a father called Thomas Woodham b c 1659 Risley, as John christened his second son 'Thomas' in Thriplow in 1719.

Jill, any more info on the Thomas Woodham born Riseley 1659 - he was not baptised there according to PR. Is he the one baptised at Knotting 3 Dec 1659 son of Twiford & Mary ? . An Eliz daughter of Twyford Woodham was baptised at Riseley on 4 Nov 1661. 

[bedfordshire boy]

      I think this John Woodham b 1688 might have had a father called Thomas Woodham b c 1659 Risley, as John christened his second son 'Thomas' in Thriplow in 1719.

Who didn't have a son named Thomas? If the usual naming pattern had been followed it would have been his first son who would have been named Thomas. What's the evidence for the 1719 baptism in Thriplow? Is this the same Thomas Woodham who was buried in Thriplow on 4 June 1719?

I still can't see anything that links John who married  Barbara Benning of Thriplow at Grantchester with Riseley

David

[johnP-bedford]

Sorry! Wrong Dinah. The one at Croydon was buried 9 Dec 1703 also at Croydon.

Thank's for that - that's mucked up Richard Scarr's family tree - he has that the Dinah from Croydon married Thomas Partridge ... but then he does say that Sharnbrook & Potton are in Cambs  -- must be American !

[bedfordshire boy]

Sorry! Wrong Dinah. The one at Croydon was buried 9 Dec 1703 also at Croydon.

........... he has that the Dinah from Croydon married Thomas Partridge ... but then he does say that Sharnbrook & Potton are in Cambs  -- must be American !

It's the Meatloaf method of genealogy - "Two out of Three Ain't Bad". The name's right; the date's about right, the place is wrong but what the heck! It must be the same person. WRONG!

[Jill123]

JohnP and David,
   I found all of this early Woodham info on various internet sites so I can't vouch for any of it - hence my search for the true facts!
   David, I think the Barbary woodham burial 1734 Thriplow sounds plausible, but I've got she was born in Thriplow 1690 and died in Gamlingay 1734. I've also got that one of her children by John were born in Thriplow Thomas 1719-1719 (just online info so I'm unsure of it). Her other kids seem to have been born in Southill Beds or Arrington, Cambs. - but remember I have no documentary proof of this.
    I still think I could be missing a generation between John and Barbara and my William Woodham b 1756 Gamlingay.
   I've had another look at the 1772 will of John Woodham, gentleman of Gamlingay......it definitely says 'my son William Woodham' as the first bequest. It bequests him messuages, cottages, lands etc in Bottisham, Cambs. He then bequeaths 'unto my grandson John Woodham son of my late son Benjamin Woodham...messuages, cots, land etc in Gamlingay'. He then tells son William to give £50 to his grandsons George and John Triplow, sons of his daughter Elizabeth who married a Mr Triplow. It also says 'as soon as my son Wiliam woodham shall have attained the age of one and twenty' so William was still a minor in 1772. He also bequeaths to 'the children of Edward Simms? by my daughter Sarah Simms? Then he bequeaths to the children of 'my late son Benning Woodham' (ah-ha! Benning and Benjamin were brothers!) and to the widow of Benning. It also leaves messuages etc to' Rebecca my loving wife' in Gamlingay.
   I hope this might help unravel things a little.
Just one little thing; I said this John b abt 1688 Gamlingay might have had parents Thomas b 1659 Risley and his wife Susana Webb m in Risley. Well, John named his first daughter Susannah according to my online findings. Connection perhaps?
     Jill

[tickle]

If you guys will just hold your horses for a day or two I will answer all your questions. Patience people. I can save you a lot of debate and typing if you can just hang on! There are so many barkings up so many wrong trees. Like I said before, it's simple when you know how!

Tickle

[bedfordshire boy]

Sorry Tickle, patience was never one of my virtues. Can't wait that long. Genealogy is very simple. We know how. All you have to do is find a baptism. From that you get the names of the parents. You then find their marriage. You then get the baptisms of the parents. Then repeat the cycle. You pad it out with wills if you're lucky. A piece of cake! I wait with bated breath! In the meantime....,
Jill, use online trees as a guide only, and check the facts for yourself. "I found all of this early Woodham info on various internet sites so I can't vouch for any of it - hence my search for the true facts!" Spot on! Most online trees are inaccurate; some verge on the fictional. You only need to look at your Woodhams to prove that. Most have John died in Riseley in 1772 (or Risley as most seem to have incorrectly spelt it, a sure giveaway that they've just copied each other) which is easily disproved.

The 1772 will looks to be very helpful. John lived in Gamlingay. Son Benning was dead. Son Benjamin was dead. His wife was Rebecca. Gamlingay parish register gives his age on burial as 83. His son William was a minor in 1772. So I don't think you've missed a generation. What concerns me though is what other children were born between 1735 when John married Rebecca Nodes in London, and when William was baptised in 1756. That's an awfully big gap to fill!

Who were the children of Thomas & Susannah who were said to be born in Southill (and who don't appear in Southill parish register)? William Woodham who married Mary Cooper in Southill in 1771 and who baptised five children there, was from Keysoe, Beds. There's a Mr John Woodham of Gastlings buried at Southill on 14 Jan 1771, and a William Woodham, yeoman, on 4 Aug 1784 (possibly the one who married in 1771). I can't see an obvious connection between the Southill Woodham family to the Gamlingay one. There are no Woodhams appearing in Southill Independent Church Book, so this family at least don't seem to have been non-conformist. http://blars.adlibsoft.com/wwwopac.exe?DATABASE=catalo%3Earchives&LANGUAGE=0&DEBUG=0&BRIEFADAPL=../web/adapls/wwwreq&DETAILADAPL=../web/adapls/wwwreq&%250=400153207&LIMIT=50 shows that a John Woodham was living in Stanford, a hamlet of Southill possibly in 1737.

There are a number of Twiford Woodham burials at Ely, and numerous Woodham burials there. I wonder if Twyford Woodham in north Beds is connected?

David

[tickle]

Like I said, patience. Jill has the file with all the answers to all the queries you have just posed, so she doesn't really need any more hypothetical questions. If you're anywhere near Bedford Archives the Woodham file has been deposited there as well. Ely, Riseley, Keysoe, Southill, Thriplow, Gamlingay, Debden, Widdington, Streatley, Sandy, Beeston, Croydon, Linton, Whittlesford, Abbotsley, Great Gransden, Clavering,and a whole lot of other places are all, as you surmised, connected. The rest is up to you.

Tickle